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completely-bananas
04-Jul-05, 15:40
Firstly this is not a post about the intent of the concert, that's clear and very worthy.
I was however amazed at how poor some of the acts were, some seemed to be intent on relaunching carers and worse still massaging their already inflated egos.
First band up should have exploded on stage, unfortunately for me Mr McC didn't deliver, the Beatles are finished many years ago lets enjoy what they did. Mr and Mrs Becks get a life please, Pete D you were obviously stoned and don't get me started on Bono.
What's everyone elses feelings on it?
I would agrree with you there completely-bananas. Some of the acts were good tho, but the thing that got me [mad] was some of the so called role models lek Madoona(if you can call her that) was there swearing, when there are young children watching
I believe there has been about 400 complaints about the swearing! It was totally unnecessary for the artists to swear - and I am sure they were aware that lots of children would be watching. NOT good role models.
caithnessgirl
04-Jul-05, 16:47
As i heard on the radio today, were all those people there because of the intentions of the concert or were they there to see the acts? maybe a concert wasn't the best way to go about it?! i dont know.
And yes maybe for Paul McC was not your cup of tea, but maybe for the other people, Keane, Joss Stone etc. was not their cup of tea?! They catered quite well i thought, for different tastes and age groups and did wel to organise such a huge event at all!!!!
As for the swearing, i did not hear it myself, but that is down to the acts themselves, and will only reflect badly on them and shouldnt be considered as a down point to the whole thing! :o)
some of the bands were pretty poor. but man.... Pink Floyd were awesome! was worth it just for them
as for the swearing.... get over it. i'm sure they here more swearing in the playground at school than any of the artists used
I missed U2 and Pink Floyd does anyone have a video they could lend me to put me out of my misery ?
I watched every act and the quality was very variable. With regards to the swearing, considering that Madonna protects her own kids from naughty words it is two-faced of her to let rip. Other offenders were perhaps a bit naive but Snoop is simply a talentless, foul-mouthed pornographer who degrades women for a living. His inclusion was a major faux pas along with Velvet Revolver and Pete Druggerty. Peter Kay was fissed as a part and Fearne Cotton gave a bad name to organisms with more than two brain cells. At one stage they cut from REM live to talk to non-entities. Perhaps Bobby G tried too hard to pander to all tastes but Annie Lennox, Robbie Williams and Pink Floyd all shone like crazy diamonds in their own way and others helped make it a good day. The girl from the original Live Aid film was the highlight of the day/night, for all the failings, a tiny bit of good was done then. I seriously doubt whether the 8 stuffed shirts with other agendas will be swayed one iota. These guys live for today and their careers, not for the future of our planet. Until we learn to vote differently we will see the same old vast divide between ourselves and our African brothers/sisters.
Stormblast
05-Jul-05, 11:24
Robbie williams should have been flogged on two counts
the dire attempt to cover we will rock you
and the comment' i haven't eaten for two years'!!!
Muppet
completely-bananas
05-Jul-05, 11:42
Pink Floyd were indeed excellent and you were right about REM, they two were excellent but for some reason we were made to listen to interviewers drivel.
Don't get me wrong about Paul Mc C it was about each to their own, I just felt that he's had his day and was poor generally. Annie Lennox was brill. In fact the girls stole it for me with a few male exceptions.
On the siubject of Madonna, did you see her after show interview? She had on false lashes and they were too heavy and made her eyes close the whole time.
Pink floyd were brilliant, should have had an hour of them to finish the show; Dave Gilmour is also a great bloke as he recently sold a house in London for £1.5m and gave it all to charities for the homeless.
I thought Razorlight were excellent, put on a really good show.
The real show stopper for me was the young Ethiopian woman who came on stage before Madonna, brought a tear to the eye of a terminal cynic :D
Anyone know were Franz Ferdinand are at the moment; I'm surprised they weren't at Live 8 or Glastonbury :confused
Robbie williams should have been flogged on two counts
the dire attempt to cover we will rock you
and the comment' i haven't eaten for two years'!!!
Muppet
Aye, Robbie's an aerosol but he is a great performer. Not a bloke you would like to spend too much time in the company of and best when using his mouth for singing and not talking. By the way is Rob bowling from the Pavillion End or batting for the other side these days?
I assumed he was a bit of an alrounder :D
By the way is Rob bowling from the Pavillion End or batting for the other side these days?
Does it really matter... and who cares anyway????
Back to the original posting, I thought REM, Annie Lennox and Pink Floyd were excellent. I would have gone just to hear Pink Floyd sing Comfortably Numb. In my opinion, the best group and the best song of the day.
Would have been nice to see The Killers do a few more songs. And thought Kaiser Chiefs in Philly were very good too.
~~Tides~~
05-Jul-05, 22:28
You are forgetting the Who, they were magic.
Now that my friends...
... is a posting
Two thumbs up for Pepsi Challenge... intelligent considered dialogue is alive and well - just when I was losing faith in what web forums are supposed to be about...
Hmm Interesting posting I agree....but where is your answer to the obvious problem Pepsi
I supect a wee bit of NIMBYism here eh? [disgust]
By the way is Rob bowling from the Pavillion End or batting for the other side these days?
Does it really matter... and who cares anyway????
Freddie Merc and now Robbie. Bit of a thing about standing up for Buttlins Happy Campers have we?
Does it really matter? No. Who cares anyway? Probably most of the British public. The Daily Star, The Sun, Hello magazine, Heat magazine etc all make a living out of every piece of trivia concerning "Celebrities" Those celebs make their living by constantly being in the public eye so I think it is fair game that people want to know all about them.
Robbie Williams made a big thing about flirting with Fearne Cotton during the Live 8 gig, suggesting that they "Get it On". The "troops" want to know if Robbie is as macho as he makes out at times or is truly as camp as he acts on other occasions. Come on Roberto, open that closet door, so that many people can decide whether they wish to answer the question "Let Me Entertain You" in the affirmative.
Freddie Merc and now Robbie. Bit of a thing about standing up for Buttlins Happy Campers have we?
I find it strange that you would, first of all, even notice, and secondly, feel the need to post about it. Are you adding 1 and 1 and getting 42?
FWIW, I don't care one iota who Robbie Williams likes to sleep with. Lots of entertainers have been camp/androgynous/ambiguous/outrageous/whatever whether they've been straight/gay/bi/intersex/asexual/whatever whether or not they've in the closet/out of the closet/have no closet.
Robbie Williams made a big thing about flirting with Fearne Cotton during the Live 8 gig, suggesting that they "Get it On". The "troops" want to know if Robbie is as macho as he makes out at times or is truly as camp as he acts on other occasions. Come on Roberto, open that closet door, so that many people can decide whether they wish to answer the question "Let Me Entertain You" in the affirmative.
Sorry, but why should he? If he feels it's in the interests of his career to be ambiguous/stay in the closet/whatever, then so what? Or are you looking to be entertained? ;)
I'll admit to not watching much of the Live 8 concert at Hyde Park. I flicked it on in the evening and Madonna bugged me, so I flicked over.
Mind you, tonight's concert's going to be classy - a chance to sing along with The Proclaimers. :D
When ya gooooo, will ya send baaack, a lettterrrr frooooommmmm Americaaaa!
Take a looooookkkkk att the railtraaaaack, from Miamiii tooo Caaannaaddaaaaaa! [lol]
Freddie Merc and now Robbie. Bit of a thing about standing up for Buttlins Happy Campers have we?
I wasn't defending Freddie Mercury because he was gay, I was saying I disagreed with your attempt at humour about someone dying of AIDS. I would have made my comment whoever you were talking about, whether straight/gay/bi/etc, celebrity or no.
I don't care what Robbie is, and I believe you'll find most of the British public don't either. I don't understand this obsession for people to need to know about celebrities lifestyles. Like it matters! Who cares! Will it really make a difference to your life!
You either like them or not, for their talent.
Mind you, tonight's concert's going to be classy - a chance to sing along with The Proclaimers. :D
Dunno about classy -- looks like it's gonna be more Wet 8 than Live 8 tonight. It's been peeing down all afternoon here. :(
We could do with a bit o' Sunshine on Leith right now. :D
Maybe Wet Wet Wet will be playing instead ...
Mind you, tonight's concert's going to be classy - a chance to sing along with The Proclaimers. :D
Dunno about classy -- looks like it's gonna be more Wet 8 than Live 8 tonight. It's been peeing down all afternoon here. :(
We could do with a bit o' Sunshine on Leith right now. :D
Maybe Wet Wet Wet will be playing instead ...
Altogether Now!!
Raindrops keep falling on my head
And just like ol' Bush whose feet are too big for his bed
Nothin’ seems to fit
Those raindrops are falling on my head, they keep falling
So I just did me some talkin’ to The Sun
And I said I didn’t like the way he’ got things done
Killing on the job
Those raindrops are falling on my head, they keep falling
But there’s one thing I know
The troops he sends to meet me won’t defeat me
It won’t be long till happiness steps up to greet me
Raindrops keep falling on my head
But that doesn’t mean my eyes will soon be turnin’ red
Crying’s not for me
Cause I’m never gonna stop the rain by complainin’
Because I’m free
Nothing’s worrying me.
I don't care what Robbie is, and I believe you'll find most of the British public don't either. I don't understand this obsession for people to need to know about celebrities lifestyles. Like it matters! Who cares! Will it really make a difference to your life!
You either like them or not, for their talent.
Sorry, but I simply cannot agree. I'm a Celebrity, Big Brother, Fame Academy, Celebrity Fit Club etc etc show that the Great British public ARE interested in mind numbing trivia and faux Celebs of any sort. You may not understand the obsession but that obsession IS there
The world is full of all sorts of people. We are not all Jeremy Paxman or his Psuedo Intellectual guests that spout utter claptrap on the Culture section of Newsnight in the name of supposed highbrow viewing.
Freddie played with fire and got burnt, one man's meat is another man's poison as they say. People laughed, who are you to judge what others laugh about?
Sorry, but why should he? If he feels it's in the interests of his career to be ambiguous/stay in the closet/whatever, then so what? Or are you looking to be entertained? ;)
I feel it lacks honesty to portray yourself as one thing simply to make a career out of it, particularly when you have the talent the circumvents the requirement to do such a thing. What is wrong with simply admitting what you are?
Sorry, but why should he? If he feels it's in the interests of his career to be ambiguous/stay in the closet/whatever, then so what? Or are you looking to be entertained? ;)
I feel it lacks honesty to portray yourself as one thing simply to make a career out of it, particularly when you have the talent the circumvents the requirement to do such a thing. What is wrong with simply admitting what you are?
I agree with you that it is important to be honest with who you really are. Music should be sang from the heart. I find it odd that there are many 'gay' artists that exclusively sing songs that are aimed at a heterosexual audience and there is nothing wrong with that, a song is a song anyway, but they never sing a love song about who they actually feel about, IOW, people of their own sex. OK Elton John sang a song about Daniel but he was his brother but is he going to bring out a song called 'David'? I doubt it, I rather suspect he thinks such a song would be a flop and make people cringe, or he may think that it may harm his image as a family entertainer.
But if Elton was true to himself then maybe he should just come out with a song about how he truly feels towards David.
I agree with you that it is important to be honest with who you really are.[/quote]
Or is it more important to be "authentic" with the people you interact with? Subtle difference.
Music should be sang from the heart. [/quote]
Or written and played from the heart, Elton John writes music, Bernie Taupin wrote most of the lyrics... including "Daniel" ....
So Elton John is authentic - he writes music from the heart - even though he does travel on the other bus...
but they never sing a love song about who they actually feel about
On the other hand, in the interest of honesty, if artists were compelled to sing about their sexual preferences, then maybe the bobbies would have been onto the likes of Gary Glitter a bit sooner...
but they never sing a love song about who they actually feel about
On the other hand, in the interest of honesty, if artists were compelled to sing about their sexual preferences, then maybe the bobbies would have been onto the likes of Gary Glitter a bit sooner...
I think it is less about the songs Elton has not written/sung, more about the ones he has. eg Nikita, I Want to Kiss the Bride etc
Why not sing about Kissing the Groom instead? The fact is it wouldn't sell as well due to the Homo factor and the type of potential buyers who got upset by the idea of Chuck Berry playing with his Ding-a-Ling in the 70's
Maybe Elton or Robbie could cover that old Doctor Hook song with a slight twist, how did it go again?
"When you're in love with a beautiful man, It's hard, you know it gets so hard"
I wonder what Sylvia's Mother would have said about that?
Scorrie,
If you look carefully at the songs that Elton/Bernie have collaborated on, not many of them are gender specific... he could be singing about a bloke or a bird.
Its just that we choose to hear these songs through our "heterosexual spectacles" as it were...
PS. Nikita is about a bloke - Nikita Kruschev...
Kiss the Bride- hmm, check out San Francisco and some of the weddings there, although to be fair, I think he wrote this around the time he was drinking from both taps.
Well, rain or no rain, it was a good night out :D
I didn't know Wet Wet Wet were playing -- honestly! They were surprisingly good.
Highlights for me were Snow Patrol, Travis, Annie Lennox, Texas, Bono dueting with Andrea Corr, Katherine Jenkins singing Nessun Dorma, Neneh Cherry and Youssou N'Dour, and Lennie Henry singing the Blues. Unlike the guy sitting in front of me, I enjoyed Beverley Knight's version of Robbie's Angels.
Comedy highlight was when we all broke out spontaneously into Flower of Scotland -- Eddie Izzard had absolutely no idea what was going on.
It was nice to see Natasha Bedingfield in real life, and, despite the fact that she kept saying she loved me, she sounded a little out of sorts.
Lowlights were that it was cold and wet, and Snow Patrol only played one song -- albeit the anthemic "Run".
Bumped into my workmate Laura at the turnstyles. The question is: does she still think I look like George Clooney now she's seen him in real life? Don't quite see it myself...
Trust me Szin, you don't resemble George Clooney in the slightest. Either Laura needs new specs or she's having you on. [lol] Glad you had a good time at the concerts tho. -H
~~Tides~~
07-Jul-05, 13:06
I though James Brown was an awful anti-climax last night. I thought his performance was just awful. My face still hurts from the cringing at watching 'Will' sing papa's got a brand new bag.
Also, who the hell had the great idea to leave Bono's speach for some 'expert'. [mad]
I think the Proclamers should have come back on and finished the show with 'Im on my way'.
Trust me Szin, you don't resemble George Clooney in the slightest. Either Laura needs new specs or she's having you on. [lol] Glad you had a good time at the concerts tho. -H
Thanks. I know -- she's just winding me up, I'm sure.
Tides, I got home in time to see the Corrs & Bono and James Brown on tv. The latter was much better live than he appeared on tv, and he went down well with the crowd. He's not really my cup of tea though. Ronan Keating was good too. It was a very Irish night!
thought the BBC's coverage was ridiculous - they once again kept cutting away from live acts to inane drivel that was suposed to be an interview. we even missed most of Bob Geldof's speach so that we could listen to Travis saying exactly the same as everyone else. Really is time these DJ's were taught interview techniques instead of answering there own questions before the interviewee even gets their mouth open!
thought the BBC's coverage was ridiculous - they once again kept cutting away from live acts to inane drivel that was suposed to be an interview. we even missed most of Bob Geldof's speach so that we could listen to Travis saying exactly the same as everyone else. Really is time these DJ's were taught interview techniques instead of answering there own questions before the interviewee even gets their mouth open!
The BBC have long employed based on looks and not talent. Anyone who has watched Natasha on Breakfast TV will know what I mean. I remember one guest asking a question of a fellow guest, Natasha appeared to take it all in before then asking the guest the identical question!!
Just recently Julia Botfield was interviewing Tom Cruise regarding War of The Worlds and I watched incredulously as she asked Tom what she thought of H G Wells' version of the story!! I can only think her mind was on a Cruise missile at the time!! What next? Dickens' version of Great Expectations, Shakespeare's version of Hamlet or even Aesop's version of, err, Aesop's fables?
To be fair to the BBC, there is no such thing as a free performance and all the celebs have to get their plug in somewhere. Just a pity they seem to time it at the worst possible moments.
Viva Diva
11-Jul-05, 20:24
I really enjoyed the show at Murrayfield, although watching the video when I came home I was quite gutted at the coverage. You really had to be there I suppose to get the full effect of it. As for swearing, there was far less of that to be had, although on the first occasion of it I did note that it was dead on 9pm, and probably even later on the so called live coverage. Bono was brilliant and so were Bob and Midge. It was a really great way to feel part of something.
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