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I know im doing a rant so soon after i posted about Rose West,
but here we go again, it seems that Ian Huntley is getting fat gorging on
sweets & stuff bought with money that was sent to him by well wisher,s. How on earth could ANYONE wish this callous man well, this is the person who murdered two innocent little girls then pretended to be so concerned that he actually helped the police in the search for them knowing full well the where abouts of them & the fact that he had already murdered them.
the mind boggle,s why some people can be so forgiving towards this kind of ,
im stuck for word,s here, cant call him an animal cause animals dont much do this to each other, beast is still to good a name to call him. im really stuck on what to name him .
[disgust] [evil]
[evil]well what i would call him would get me banned from the org! this is awful!!!
I read a thing about him in the paper about him that I wont get into on the org but in that article it says that his money that he has in his bank is from his family and from his Prison job - don't get me wrong, I'm certainly NOT defending him just letting you know what I read.
I read a thing about him in the paper about him that I wont get into on the org but in that article it says that his money that he has in his bank is from his family and from his Prison job - don't get me wrong, I'm certainly NOT defending him just letting you know what I read.
yea i spose different papers for different strokes, depends on what the media want to make outa it. but it,s still maddenning that thing can live inside in some sort of luxury.
yes I know. I know people that have been to prison for minor offences who say that a lot of the high profile prisoners and the lifers get it all handed to them on a plate because "its more trouble than its worth".
Penelope Pitstop
19-Jun-07, 16:51
I know im doing a rant so soon after i posted about Rose West,
but here we go again, it seems that Ian Huntley is getting fat gorging on
sweets & stuff bought with money that was sent to him by well wisher,s. How on earth could ANYONE wish this callous man well, this is the person who murdered two innocent little girls then pretended to be so concerned that he actually helped the police in the search for them knowing full well the where abouts of them & the fact that he had already murdered them.
the mind boggle,s why some people can be so forgiving towards this kind of ,
im stuck for word,s here, cant call him an animal cause animals dont much do this to each other, beast is still to good a name to call him. im really stuck on what to name him .
[disgust]
As you say to call him an "animal" is an injustice to animals.
I often wonder in such cases ........ where there is no doubt that the person carried out such a horrific crime .... if the death penatly would have been a better option. Would it give the family more closure, peace, justice...??
And ......yes ......I know it's not always that clear cut. Just having a wee random moment to myself this afternoon....don't worry I'll get over it by tea time!!!:lol:
connieb19
19-Jun-07, 22:12
I read he's got over £1000 in the bank which he is spending splashing out on chocolates for his new boyfriend.
I often wonder in such cases ........ where there is no doubt that the person carried out such a horrific crime .... if the death penatly would have been a better option. Would it give the family more closure, peace, justice...??
And ......yes ......I know it's not always that clear cut.
I have wondered the same thing of late especially with the news saying that the prisions are full and they are going to have to let many prisoner go free.
Not really much of a deterant.
j4bberw0ck
19-Jun-07, 22:32
Might be helpful to turn it on its head for a moment; would it be a better indicator of a penal system if he was a walking skeleton with fingers bleeding from making wooden chessmen, as happened to inhabitants of Russian gulags from time to time?
If you believe "yes", then you've subscribed to the idea that jail is a punishment. If you believe "no", then you believe that jail is about redemption.
Perhaps what you should be considering is that he won't be free again anytime soon. And that legally, jail isn't primarily about punishment. Interesting conundrum.:lol:
changilass
19-Jun-07, 22:41
Why is it ok to punish a child for a wrongdoing, but adults must get redemption.
Surely as adults we should all know better.
Let the punishment fit the crime.[evil]
j4bberw0ck
19-Jun-07, 22:46
Yep, a great way of clearing out the jails............. make a bit more space...
So how would you advocate dealing with a housebreaker?
A mugger?
A sex offender?
A person who was convicted of killing another while driving a car?
A sex offender?
Concise answers appreciated, changilass, since the punishment must fit the crime.
changilass
19-Jun-07, 23:23
Don't do concise.
If I had all the answers jabberwock I would be a polititian, as it is I am a parent, and a house owner.
Whilst I would be seriously annoyed if someone broke into my house, it is nothing to how I would feel if someone hurt my child.
I read he's got over £1000 in the bank which he is spending splashing out on chocolates for his new boyfriend.
you read the same papers as me!!
j4bberw0ck
19-Jun-07, 23:28
If I had all the answers jabberwock I would be a polititian, as it is I am a parent, and a house owner.
Whilst I would be seriously annoyed if someone broke into my house, it is nothing to how I would feel if someone hurt my child.
So it's revenge, then?
I think just talking about him and keeping him go feeds his ego. I can't think about people like him.
changilass
19-Jun-07, 23:57
So it's revenge, then?
Are you seriously trying to say you would be happy if someone hurt a member of your family??
Who mentioned revenge? In a social society there have to be rules or else the cohesion of any group will collapse.
If a wrong is done my a member of that group for what ever reason then there must be some form of restitution.
I think what is being challenged here is the life style led by those who have been sentenced to life in the full meaning of that term and the style of imprisonment that they incur.
Whether we think the law is an ass in another matter and what are own thoughts on crime and punishment might be would be a diversion from the original thread as it was posted.
j4bberw0ck
20-Jun-07, 09:12
If I had all the answers jabberwock I would be a polititian
Are you seriously trying to say you would be happy if someone hurt a member of your family??
The lady doth protest too much! :lol:
Art of the politician, lesson 1: attempt to deflect the original question by asking a question which is designed to focus all the issues down into one single, absurd, concept.
But after all, Huntley as a topic (and the dubious concept of making punishments fit crimes) has been done to death (http://forum.caithness.org/search.php?searchid=129196) on here so I'll bow out, leaving a neat little hook for someone to make the obvious joke :cool: .
In my honest opinion, the trouble with British Justice is that the sentence is never usually indicitive of the crime.
A man may receive a three year sentence for mis appropriating funds then you will get someone who down loads of distributes child pornography and they get the same sentence.
i AM NOT SAYING FRAUD IS RIGHT OR CORRECT BUT MORALLY IT IS IN MY OPINION A LESS HEINIOUS CRIME.
I feel that our entire justice system needs a good over haul to bring it kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
As for the death penalty i do believe that those who abuse children and the elderly disabled infirm should serve a minimum of 25 years with no chance of parole.
And as for the chemical castration c---p they are leading us to believe will solve our problems with sexual predators . Get a grip
One can stop the certain organs functioining but what about other ways and means.
Our justice system is very archaic steeped in tradion and i would go as far as to say it is a male dominated system made by males for males.
i am female by the way and not a man hater in any way shape or form.
I do believe that the man and woman in the street could better judge the crime punishment ratio than some seventy year old fuddy duddy whose i dea of slumming it is tea from a bone china mug instead of a doulton tea set.
Every day i read the nationals and the locals and very seldom do i think the punishment fits the crime.
or maybe at thirty plus i am showing my age
sorry if i have offended anyone with the topics i have brought up, i have tried to be as delicate as possible.
And yes it annoys the day lights out of me that prisoners are locked up in nice cushy cells eating chocolate and living the high life when they have killed children.
I was in America a few years ago and saw chain gangs out and about and initially i was shocked but maybe we in britain are too lenient.
Our pensioners live on a pittance and people like ian huntly lives a very normal existence inside with treats ect BRITISH JUSTICE IS AN ASS
THE VICTIM HAS LESS RIGHTS THAN THE PERPETRATOR
well i could type all day but i feel i had better shut up
In my honest opinion, the trouble with British Justice is that the sentence is never usually indicitive of the crime.
A man may receive a three year sentence for mis appropriating funds then you will get someone who down loads of distributes child pornography and they get the same sentence.
i AM NOT SAYING FRAUD IS RIGHT OR CORRECT BUT MORALLY IT IS IN MY OPINION A LESS HEINIOUS CRIME.
I feel that our entire justice system needs a good over haul to bring it kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
As for the death penalty i do believe that those who abuse children and the elderly disabled infirm should serve a minimum of 25 years with no chance of parole.
And as for the chemical castration c---p they are leading us to believe will solve our problems with sexual predators . Get a grip
One can stop the certain organs functioining but what about other ways and means.
Our justice system is very archaic steeped in tradion and i would go as far as to say it is a male dominated system made by males for males.
i am female by the way and not a man hater in any way shape or form.
I do believe that the man and woman in the street could better judge the crime punishment ratio than some seventy year old fuddy duddy whose i dea of slumming it is tea from a bone china mug instead of a doulton tea set.
Every day i read the nationals and the locals and very seldom do i think the punishment fits the crime.
or maybe at thirty plus i am showing my age
sorry if i have offended anyone with the topics i have brought up, i have tried to be as delicate as possible.
And yes it annoys the day lights out of me that prisoners are locked up in nice cushy cells eating chocolate and living the high life when they have killed children.
I was in America a few years ago and saw chain gangs out and about and initially i was shocked but maybe we in britain are too lenient.
Our pensioners live on a pittance and people like ian huntly lives a very normal existence inside with treats ect BRITISH JUSTICE IS AN ASS
THE VICTIM HAS LESS RIGHTS THAN THE PERPETRATOR
well i could type all day but i feel i had better shut up
Why shut up, your doing pretty good so far.[in my estimation anyhow]
Yep, a great way of clearing out the jails............. make a bit more space...
So how would you advocate dealing with a housebreaker?
A mugger?
A sex offender?
A person who was convicted of killing another while driving a car?
A sex offender?
Concise answers appreciated, changilass, since the punishment must fit the crime.
Must say... the arab way does seem to work:
cut off the left hand,
then the right,
then offending parts,
finally - decapitation.
Barbaric it may be - a cure it is.
Ricco i think i made my feeling clear on the said subject
i will elucidate if the e.mail was meant for me
sex offenders in my opinion should be jailed for a minimum of 25 years before being allowed parole for any sexual offence against children the elderly disabled or infirm or male or female.
I guess if i had my way all sex offenders would be on a building somewhere in the middle of the ocean where they can never rape or abuse again.
As a christian and in all honesty i dont know if i could advocate a death penalty, but saying that in my twenties i was all for the death penalty.
Drink drivers who kill should be jailed and longer than the mandatory sentences they seem to be getting now or in some cases a piddling fine with no thought for the victims families in the equation.
house breakers ect they do deserve to be punished, i mean they violate your home for goodness sake, but the violation which occurs is in no way violation to the extent of rape or sexual abuse.
I guess what i am trying to say although without very much eloquence the sentence should fit the crime and in my opinion this is seldom the case.
also i guess the thing with british justice and life in general we can disagree with what a persons says yet still see from their view point.
Jean paul satre i believe said
i may disagree with everything you say but i will defend to my death your right to say it
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