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emb123
16-Jun-07, 02:09
I have yet to see this mentioned in a UK paper, but this was pointed out to me.

Woman, 80, reared in Scotland, faces deportation to U.S.
By BEN McCONVILLE
Associated Press

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/4894266.html

EDINBURGH, Scotland — A U.S. citizen who moved to Scotland at the start of the Great Depression said today that she could be deported from Britain as an illegal immigrant and was scared of returning to an America she didn't remember.
Marguerite Grimmond, 80, was born in Detroit, but at age 2 she moved to Arbroath in northeast Scotland with her Scottish mother.
In May, she traveled outside of Britain for the first time since 1929 on a family vacation to Australia. But when she returned, immigration officials at London's Heathrow Airport said she did not have the necessary permit to remain in Britain, Grimmond said.
"My mother was Scottish; my husband is Scottish; and my children are Scottish. So I never even realized I was not," she said. "It's a horrible feeling to think I may be deported."
The Home Office said it could not comment on individual cases.
Grimmond said the immigration officials told her that because she was not a British citizen, she needed to apply to the Home Office for a stamp in her passport indicating she had permission to live in Britain.
Officials gave her permission to stay in Britain for four weeks — until June 20 — and she has applied to become a British citizen at a cost of $1,500.
Now Grimmond and her husband, David, are waiting anxiously at their home in Kirriemuir, Angus, to hear whether her application was successful.
"I don't know anyone in America," she said. "I have no friends or relatives there. And it's a frightening thought to be deported to a country you can't really remember."
David Grimmond said his wife, who had never before traveled outside Britain and did not have a passport, had inquired about getting a British passport to go to Australia. She was told she would have to be naturalized as a British citizen and advised it would be cheaper to get an American passport, which costs $140.
Marguerite Grimmond said no one told her she would need a permit from the Home Office to get back into Britain.
"We still haven't heard if the application for citizenship has been successful, and there is nothing else I can do against a faceless bureaucracy," she said.
Grimmond said she was unsure if she would have to take a new citizenship exam that all naturalized Britons have to take, but said she was confident she could pass.

crayola
16-Jun-07, 02:15
I read about that somewhere today. I'm sure it will be sorted soon and she'll be allowed to stay. The media tiger is out on the prowl looking for stories and it pounced upon this one before it drew breath. It's no more than an example of how the tiger relies on plagiarism to survive. Cullbucket was right all along.

emb123
16-Jun-07, 02:24
Yes, it's obviously an administrative problem. If for no better reason the lady's husband is Scottish so she would logically be entitled to stay. However I do feel that it is most unfair to put anyone through this distress, especially at 80 years old.

johno
16-Jun-07, 09:39
Bureacracry gone mad, to much red tape & to many civil servant,s with to little to do. Dont think this will go very far especially now the media have their teeth into it. Still it will be very worrying for the woman concerned.
at 92 yrs of age she could well do without the hassle,
MAKES YOU WONDER THOUGH HOW THE HELL DID THIS COME TO LIGHT 90 YRS ON, SOMEONE MUST HAVE BEEN DIGGING??

j4bberw0ck
16-Jun-07, 09:54
It's a "let's sell newspapers" story, surely? She's committed no crimes and she's married to a UK national. Rubber stamp out of Civil Servant's drawer, job sorted, no drama.

Now if someone can ask Canada to not send back criminals who left here as toddlers at 18 months old and end up deported 45 years later..... :lol:

johno
16-Jun-07, 10:03
It's a "let's sell newspapers" story, surely? She's committed no crimes and she's married to a UK national. Rubber stamp out of Civil Servant's drawer, job sorted, no drama.

Now if someone can ask Canada to not send back criminals who left here as toddlers at 18 months old and end up deported 45 years later..... :lol:


yep. thats a thought now.

NLP
16-Jun-07, 10:22
That's down right daft.
When I married my (then) husband got the right to stay here because I was Scottish, someone phoned me from Aberdeen (didn't even see us) asked a few questions and he got the green light.

Alice in Blunderland
16-Jun-07, 10:44
That's down right daft.
When I married my (then) husband got the right to stay here because I was Scottish, someone phoned me from Aberdeen (didn't even see us) asked a few questions and he got the green light.

My husband with whom I have two children only got his right to stay stamped this year in April having paid to sit the British test which I would have failed miserabley as I did not know half the answers to the questions.

There have been so many changes over the years and many of them involving money, money, and more money to the government. To have the indefinate stay stamp on his passport cost hundreds of pounds and when he applies next year for citizenship this will cost him even more money. He has not one word of complaint about the system as he said he is paying for the right to reside in another country contribute to the sytem and in return earn a decent wage.

Things are tightening up over the right to stay but in this ladys case its once again bureacracy gone mad. IMHO

JimH
16-Jun-07, 12:35
It is Media hype - it won't happen.

JAWS
17-Jun-07, 04:34
Should never have happened in the first place. If some silly Jobsworth had used a little common sense (if the two aren't mutually exclusive) there would have been no opportunity for any "Media Hype" in the first place!