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piratelassie
21-Apr-16, 11:02
Those people who want the Monarchy should pay for it. You could opt in to support these people . If people had the choice to pay or not to pay I wonder how long this undemocratic outdated nonsence would last? Incidently i'm a citizen not a subject.
Bystander1
21-Apr-16, 12:16
Why should I opt in to support these people who support the Monarchy ?.
Those people who want the Monarchy should pay for it. You could opt in to support these people . If people had the choice to pay or not to pay I wonder how long this undemocratic outdated nonsence would last? Incidently i'm a citizen not a subject.
You are the subject of your post.
Would these same people who do not opt in be ineligible to benefit from the massive amount of money the monarchy generates for the country?
Of course there is a perfectly easy way to opt out.
pack up your kit and move along to another country.
tonkatojo
21-Apr-16, 18:49
Of course there is a perfectly easy way to opt out.
pack up your kit and move along to another country.
One can but hope, but don't hold your breath.
And what would be the cost of a presidential election every four years?
I suspect a lot higher than the money allocated to The Monarchy.
How much would be lost from tourist income?
Would you really want a person leading the country who is a political animal?
Step back and think about it from all angles.
tonkatojo
21-Apr-16, 20:18
And what would be the cost of a presidential election every four years?
I suspect a lot higher than the money allocated to The Monarchy.
How much would be lost from tourist income?
Would you really want a person leading the country who is a political animal?
Step back and think about it from all angles.
piratelassie doesn't think it through for sure, on this and many subjects, at least in my view.
What about the cost of the First Minister? She is the highest paid politician in Europe, and in my opinion is not worth it.
Green_not_greed
22-Apr-16, 08:21
What about the cost of the First Minister? She is the highest paid politician in Europe, and in my opinion is not worth it.
Well said - and I totally agree.
I wonder if Her Majesty has solar panels on the roof of Buckingham Palace? Free hot water for the royal bath and unlimited free electricity to power the Palace's white goods while feeding excess electricity back into the grid to produce an income. She could use the money saved to fund more food-banks around the UK. Now that would be quite a statement!
I wonder if Her Majesty has solar panels on the roof of Buckingham Palace? Free hot water for the royal bath and unlimited free electricity to power the Palace's white goods while feeding excess electricity back into the grid to produce an income. She could use the money saved to fund more food-banks around the UK. Now that would be quite a statement!
Solar panels are not allowed on Lisred Buildings , so nae luck there.
Solar panels are not allowed on Lisred Buildings , so nae luck there.
So no royalties for Her Majesty then!
rob murray
22-Apr-16, 15:50
What about the cost of the First Minister? She is the highest paid politician in Europe, and in my opinion is not worth it.
Queen Nicola the first of Scotland ....got a nice ring to it.....in fairness she has a salary of £144k but only draws down £104k paid £32517 tax, still a net of c £70k a year is no bad at all. A good second wage cos her man is highly paid to, reckon between them they must be on a net of £130k a year.
rob murray
22-Apr-16, 15:55
Those people who want the Monarchy should pay for it. You could opt in to support these people . If people had the choice to pay or not to pay I wonder how long this undemocratic outdated nonsence would last? Incidently i'm a citizen not a subject.
Where are you politically, the NATS wants to keep the QUeen as head of state even if indy2 goes through, only people who dont politically want the monarchy are left wing republicans : RISE : who want an indy socialist republic of Scotland ( run like 1950's Albania )
piratelassie
22-Apr-16, 16:36
Why should I opt in to support these people who support the Monarchy ?.
These people I refer to are the royal scroungers and fine you know it.
Those people who want the Monarchy should pay for it. You could opt in to support these people . If people had the choice to pay or not to pay I wonder how long this undemocratic outdated nonsence would last? Incidently i'm a citizen not a subject.
Now here's a thought: The Office for National Statistics estimate that the total UK household expenditure on tobacco in 2014 was £19.4 Billion (£94,000,000,000 was it worth it?) at least Queeny gets the Yanks into the country to spend, spend, spend!
Oh yes you'd better check this:https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-subject
dragonfly
23-Apr-16, 08:19
I'd rather pay my 56p per year for the monarchy than a single penny on the drug taking/alcoholic wasters that sit on the dole with no intention on doing a days work in their lives.
The revenue paid to the UK from the Crown Estate is at a record £285 Million.
So, take away the Queen's £35.7 million, and the UK is left with £249 million. So, because of the royal family, your taxes are actually about £3.80 cheaper per year than they would be if the Queen did not rule.
The £249 million doesn't even include the money that tourism brings in, which is £500 Million.
Add them both together and the UK is £785 Million better off every year and all down to the queen.
piratelassie
23-Apr-16, 12:41
Figures will be used in any argument, you believe what you what to believe. The monanchy promotes class distinction . Roll on the day we say goodbye to the royals and the sycophantic press. p.s. We ARE citizens NOT subjects.
Figures will be used in any argument, you believe what you what to believe. The monanchy promotes class distinction . Roll on the day we say goodbye to the royals and the sycophantic press. p.s. We ARE citizens NOT subjects.
Yep, but YOU are a BRITISH Citizen?
dragonfly
23-Apr-16, 18:50
Figures will be used in any argument, you believe what you what to believe. The monanchy promotes class distinction . Roll on the day we say goodbye to the royals and the sycophantic press. p.s. We ARE citizens NOT subjects.
And in a democracy there are no class distinctions?
Those people who want the Monarchy should pay for it. You could opt in to support these people . If people had the choice to pay or not to pay I wonder how long this undemocratic outdated nonsence would last? Incidently i'm a citizen not a subject.
Why doesn't Canada and Australia etc chip in with their whack to keep the Royals in their palaces?
The revenue paid to the UK from the Crown Estate is at a record £285 Million.
So, take away the Queen's £35.7 million, and the UK is left with £249 million. So, because of the royal family, your taxes are actually about £3.80 cheaper per year than they would be if the Queen did not rule.
The £249 million doesn't even include the money that tourism brings in, which is £500 Million.
Add them both together and the UK is £785 Million better off every year and all down to the queen.
There is a viewpoint that if the Royals were given a council house to live in and the government nationalised the royal estates then the country could open up the palaces to the viewing public and thus revenue from tourism could actually improve upon what is currently happening.
There is a viewpoint that if the Royals were given a council house to live in and the government nationalised the royal estates then the country could open up the palaces to the viewing public and thus revenue from tourism could actually improve upon what is currently happening.
People would pay more to see the Queen in the council house.
People would pay more to see the Queen in the council house.
I laughed at that. :D
tonkatojo
23-Apr-16, 20:20
There is a viewpoint that if the Royals were given a council house to live in and the government nationalised the royal estates then the country could open up the palaces to the viewing public and thus revenue from tourism could actually improve upon what is currently happening.
I actually laughed at that as well.
laughed well at the two comments from Rheghead and sids, both so accurate
And in a democracy there are no class distinctions?
You are either Jest or you are wearing Blinkers. Every Society in the World Discriminates on Class Distinction. You only need to look at the USA, the supposed greatest Democracy, They Discriminate on Class Distinction more than any other Country.
If you truly can name a single country that has No Discrimination due to Class then post it.
dragonfly
24-Apr-16, 18:32
You are either Jest or you are wearing Blinkers. Every Society in the World Discriminates on Class Distinction. You only need to look at the USA, the supposed greatest Democracy, They Discriminate on Class Distinction more than any other Country.
If you truly can name a single country that has No Discrimination due to Class then post it.
That was my point....there is nowhere in the world whether in a monarchy or democracy that class doesn't exist! It was a rhetorical question to piratelass's statement that Monarchy promotes class distinction!
Lets ask if the Royals are willing to give up their privileges, work in factory and live in a council house for a few years, that would be an effective test to see if they promote class distinction.
Lets ask if the Royals are willing to give up their privileges, work in factory and live in a council house for a few years, that would be an effective test to see if they promote class distinction.
Actually, that could be a good idea, they could make it as part of a 'The Scheme' sort of reality tv show . Hmm what could we call it?? 'It's a Knockdown'?
tonkatojo
26-Apr-16, 12:48
Actually, that could be a good idea, they could make it as part of a 'The Scheme' sort of reality tv show . Hmm what could we call it?? 'It's a Knockdown'?
It's a bit sad/rich you have to reply to your own posts Rhegy to get them noticed.
Wh y would you want to make multi millionaires take a factory job?
Surely there would be a hard up person that would need the work
It's a bit sad/rich you have to reply to your own posts Rhegy to get them noticed.
You deliberately misrepresented my intentions there. I merely thought more on my first post and embellished it with a quote. I could easily have edited it but ho hey. You can apologise now.
Wh y would you want to make multi millionaires take a factory job?
Surely there would be a hard up person that would need the work
Have you never watched the Secret Millionaire?
tonkatojo
26-Apr-16, 18:15
You deliberately misrepresented my intentions there. I merely thought more on my first post and embellished it with a quote. I could easily have edited it but ho hey. You can apologise now.
I deliberately pointed it out for sure, apologise for what ?.
jnorburn@btinternet.com
26-Apr-16, 18:37
Boo ya sucks.
weeboyagee
04-May-16, 10:30
Not much changed on here in all the years I've been out of it, so I'll throw this one in for nothing and disappear for another 10 years. Re the First Minister of Scotland's salary, get the facts right before you blurt mis-information out on here. Nicola Sturgeon may be ENTITLED to a certain salary but a) she doesn't claim it and b) her recent disclosure of her tax return details EXACTLY what she earns. In comparison to all the other politicians in the UK never mind in Europe, this item will give you an indication of earnable salaries including where politicians, including the Speaker of the House of Commons, who is also an elected MP, earn more than a lot of the rest and some of them publish earnings of hundreds of thousands. As per usual, some folk don't bother with the real facts, they're more interested in the soundbites. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/31970289/the-uks-highest-paid-politicians-who-gets-what
Not much changed on here in all the years I've been out of it, so I'll throw this one in for nothing and disappear for another 10 years. Re the First Minister of Scotland's salary, get the facts right before you blurt mis-information out on here. Nicola Sturgeon may be ENTITLED to a certain salary but a) she doesn't claim it and b) her recent disclosure of her tax return details EXACTLY what she earns. In comparison to all the other politicians in the UK never mind in Europe, this item will give you an indication of earnable salaries including where politicians, including the Speaker of the House of Commons, who is also an elected MP, earn more than a lot of the rest and some of them publish earnings of hundreds of thousands. As per usual, some folk don't bother with the real facts, they're more interested in the soundbites. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/31970289/the-uks-highest-paid-politicians-who-gets-what
On the contrary a tax return will only detail what you have declared.
Bundles of cash in brown envelopes tend not to be declared on the old tax return.
weeboyagee
04-May-16, 10:48
The First Minister is unlikely to be pocketing brown envelopes of cash or manage to not square her tax return with her salary. Even if your statement had some truth then it would be all things being equal to everyone and every position detailed on the list.
The First Minister is unlikely to be pocketing brown envelopes of cash or manage to not square her tax return with her salary. Even if your statement had some truth then it would be all things being equal to everyone and every position detailed on the list.
No one is saying her tax return is anything other than correct.
My point is that a tax return is only whats declared.
a politician, unlikely to be taking bungs??
Nope thats never been heard of has it??
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