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davth
24-Jun-15, 10:11
What's everyone's thoughts on our proposed non payment of the 15% Sovereign grant from the Crown Estates?

BetterTogether
24-Jun-15, 10:55
What's everyone's thoughts on our proposed non payment of the 15% Sovereign grant from the Crown Estates?I think it comes under the terms of its a "non payment " of an existing commitment.
Maybe the Scottish Government feels it can now pick and choose which items it pays for under existing legal commitments, if that's the route its choosing to go down then what happens in the future when they just decide they don't want to pay for something.
It's no secret that Nicola Sturgeon is a republican and most of her party are, just undermining the union like petulant children trying to create distraction from their abysmal performance on issues that matter, like NHS, Education,Police, Fire Service maybe they should spend some time actually trying to do their jobs instead of creating mischief elsewhere.

squidge
24-Jun-15, 11:17
Here is some background

1. The Crown Estate revenues do not finance the Royal Household. They merely provide a benchmark against which the Sovereign grant is calculated. The grant is paid out of funds voted by Parliament.

2. The financing of the Royal Household is a reserved matter and neither Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish Government or the Scottish Parliament have any responsibility whatsoever for it. There are no proposals in the Smith Commission or anywhere else to change this.

3. The Smith Commission notes the issue in relation to the Sovereign Grant because once the Crown Estate is devolved, the revenues of the Crown Estate that are remitted to HM Treasury will suffer a one-off reduction by the amount of the revenues generated from Scotland. Such an adjustment will presumably be made by altering the 15% figure to a slightly higher figure and the Sovereign Grant will continue to be paid by the Treasury from funds voted by the UK Parliament as it is now.


You are welcome

davth
24-Jun-15, 12:12
Here is some background

1. The Crown Estate revenues do not finance the Royal Household. They merely provide a benchmark against which the Sovereign grant is calculated. The grant is paid out of funds voted by Parliament.

2. The financing of the Royal Household is a reserved matter and neither Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish Government or the Scottish Parliament have any responsibility whatsoever for it. There are no proposals in the Smith Commission or anywhere else to change this.

3. The Smith Commission notes the issue in relation to the Sovereign Grant because once the Crown Estate is devolved, the revenues of the Crown Estate that are remitted to HM Treasury will suffer a one-off reduction by the amount of the revenues generated from Scotland. Such an adjustment will presumably be made by altering the 15% figure to a slightly higher figure and the Sovereign Grant will continue to be paid by the Treasury from funds voted by the UK Parliament as it is now.


You are welcome

So all the noise in todays press is pure Bull Excrement?

weezer 316
24-Jun-15, 14:11
BT's post is misleading, they will just fund it out of general taxation.

I'm a republican too, benefit scam for the ages this one but if the UK agrees to keep her, and their retention seems to have broad support, then we should pay what we are required too.

rob murray
24-Jun-15, 15:48
Here is some background

1. The Crown Estate revenues do not finance the Royal Household. They merely provide a benchmark against which the Sovereign grant is calculated. The grant is paid out of funds voted by Parliament.

2. The financing of the Royal Household is a reserved matter and neither Nicola Sturgeon, the Scottish Government or the Scottish Parliament have any responsibility whatsoever for it. There are no proposals in the Smith Commission or anywhere else to change this.

3. The Smith Commission notes the issue in relation to the Sovereign Grant because once the Crown Estate is devolved, the revenues of the Crown Estate that are remitted to HM Treasury will suffer a one-off reduction by the amount of the revenues generated from Scotland. Such an adjustment will presumably be made by altering the 15% figure to a slightly higher figure and the Sovereign Grant will continue to be paid by the Treasury from funds voted by the UK Parliament as it is now.


You are welcome

BBC News : First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said the story had "no basis in fact".


She said Scotland would pay its full contribution to the sovereign grant "by hook or by crook"................

cptdodger
24-Jun-15, 15:55
BT's post is misleading, they will just fund it out of general taxation.

I'm a republican too, benefit scam for the ages this one but if the UK agrees to keep her, and their retention seems to have broad support, then we should pay what we are required too.

And the alternative - President Cameron, would that make the republicans happy ?

Alrock
24-Jun-15, 18:02
And the alternative - President Cameron, would that make the republicans happy ?

Horrifying thought that (though unlikely to happen), but can be voted out....

Almost as horrifying as King Charlse the whatever (quite likely to happen) & stuck with until he dies.

cptdodger
24-Jun-15, 18:47
Horrifying thought that (though unlikely to happen), but can be voted out.....

Which, again you are quite right, but I can't see the tourist coming to Britain in their droves to see a President, regardless who he or she is. Whether you like Prince Charles or not, I think he has done quite a lot for Caithness. As for becoming King, he is 67 this year, his mother is still relatively healthy, and while I would not wish anybody dead, he most certainly will not be on the throne as long as the Queen.

golach
24-Jun-15, 18:54
And the alternative - President Cameron, would that make the republicans happy ?

Naw Chairman Eck the Magnificent it will be.

cptdodger
24-Jun-15, 18:58
Naw Chairman Eck the Magnificent it will be.

Now, that is a horrific thought !

gerry4
24-Jun-15, 21:42
Why let facts spoil a good story? It has all been denied, palace has said the papers misinterpreted them. A little looking into by the reporters would of found it was utter rubbish. The Spectator not a magazine known for its SNP support rubbished it.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/06/no-the-snp-isnt-planning-a-republican-insurrection-heres-why/