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shazzap
14-Feb-14, 21:15
I am trying to get away from using shop bought cleaners. I have bought some white vinegar and bicarb so i can make my own cleaning products. I have also bought essential oils and am going to add these to the vinegar solution to give a nice smell. Have also looked into making air freshener with the essential oils and noted vodka is also required. Do any orgers make their own air freshener, what combinations of essential oil fragrances are good together. What do you like.

ducati
14-Feb-14, 21:37
I am trying to get away from using shop bought cleaners. I have bought some white vinegar and bicarb

Where did you buy it?

shazzap
14-Feb-14, 21:55
Where did you buy it?

I got the white vinegar from a web site i found on line. I was using apple cider vinegar but found the white vinegar after searching. Do you want a link.

sids
14-Feb-14, 21:56
In what way are ethanoic acid and sodium bicarbonate "chemical free?"

shazzap
14-Feb-14, 22:16
They are safer to use.

ducati
14-Feb-14, 22:17
I got the white vinegar from a web site i found on line. I was using apple cider vinegar but found the white vinegar after searching. Do you want a link.

No, I was hoping you would say at a shop. Trying to get my head round buying stuff to put 2 fingers up at the 21st centuary (and the 20th) on a web site.

shazzap
14-Feb-14, 22:21
No, I was hoping you would say at a shop. Trying to get my head round buying stuff to put 2 fingers up at the 21st centuary (and the 20th) on a web site.

I see. It is hard to find in the UK. You can only buy white malt vinegar in the supermarkets. This is the proper stuff. I have also stopped using Teflon.

Southern-Gal
14-Feb-14, 22:28
Get yourself a Karcher steamer, they have them in Tesco, that will save a lot of cleaning products.

ducati
14-Feb-14, 22:30
I see. It is hard to find in the UK. You can only buy white malt vinegar in the supermarkets. This is the proper stuff. I have also stopped using Teflon.

I agree about the Teflon, slippery stuff that! :lol:

Rheghead
14-Feb-14, 22:39
Everything is a chemical. Paranoia at its worst. We'll be advocating aromatherapy and phrenology next...

shazzap
14-Feb-14, 22:56
Everything is a chemical. Paranoia at its worst. We'll be advocating aromatherapy and phrenology next...

Why have you a big head. :lol:

Dadie
14-Feb-14, 23:18
I like citrus aromas...
But I use a few drops of lavender, tea tree or eucalyptus essential oil in the steam cleaner for their anti bacteria/fungal properties.
Aroma is a very personal thing...just like one perfume suits one person and not another...
Best bet is to try a few oils and experiment with a few drops(no more than 5 drops total) at a time on a cotton wool ball(put it on a warm radiator so the aroma is released) until you get a blend you like.
You can get the most popular essential oils in the chemists..and order ones in the same theme/notes online after giving the mixes a go.
Or buy or take an aromatherapy book out the library to give you a starting point on blending and the properties of each oil.
Oh its best to buy little amounts in dark bottles to keep it fresh.
You might even find a different blend for every room...with dif properties...for dif things...one to cut through cooking smells for the kitchen and something else for the bathroom and something relaxing for the bedroom and super odour eating spray for the inside of trainers etc..plus tea tree oil in conditioner to keep nits at bay (school kids) etc.
Happy experimenting!

pat
14-Feb-14, 23:19
recommend steam cleaning for practically everything - less hassle, sterilising, no contaminants, reduces dust and mites too, much easier to clean every area with one machine.

sids
14-Feb-14, 23:24
They are safer to use.

Safer than what?

shazzap
14-Feb-14, 23:27
I like citrus aromas...
But I use a few drops of lavender, tea tree or eucalyptus essential oil in the steam cleaner for their anti bacteria/fungal properties.
Aroma is a very personal thing...just like one perfume suits one person and not another...
Best bet is to try a few oils and experiment with a few drops(no more than 5 drops total) at a time on a cotton wool ball(put it on a warm radiator so the aroma is released) until you get a blend you like.
You can get the most popular essential oils in the chemists..and order ones in the same theme/notes online after giving the mixes a go.
Or buy or take an aromatherapy book out the library to give you a starting point on blending and the properties of each oil.
Oh its best to buy little amounts in dark bottles to keep it fresh.
You might even find a different blend for every room...with dif properties...for dif things...one to cut through cooking smells for the kitchen and something else for the bathroom and something relaxing for the bedroom and super odour eating spray for the inside of trainers etc..plus tea tree oil in conditioner to keep nits at bay (school kids) etc.
Happy experimenting!

I have ordered some oils on line, but was interested in what others do. I also like the idea of putting some cinnamon in a pan of water on the stove. Would like some ideas for a long lasting idea for bedroom.

Dadie
14-Feb-14, 23:45
Cotton wool balls behind the radiator or you can get ceramic rings that are not glazed so the oils permanate them that you put the essential oils on and they sink into the ceramic and they go on the lightbulb (not sure how safe they are now with the energy saving lightbulbs) or an oil burner which has a tealight in the bottom and a shallow dish on the top(not to be left unattended as a fire risk with a naked flame etc)...all work the same way really ..warmth releases the fragrance round the room! They all need refreshed with essential oils when they stop being noticable.....but cotton balls is the cheapest option with the ability to change the aroma the easiest and safest way!..

shazzap
15-Feb-14, 00:31
I have been thinking about electric tart and oil warmers. Don't want a naked flame.

rogermellie
15-Feb-14, 00:33
I agree about the Teflon, slippery stuff that! :lol:

i've never understood how they get the label to stay on the non stick teflon frying pan in tescos

Big Gaz
15-Feb-14, 00:45
i've never understood how they get the label to stay on the non stick teflon frying pan in tescos

DUH!...They use non-stick glue of course.....

Big Gaz
15-Feb-14, 00:56
I see. It is hard to find in the UK. You can only buy white malt vinegar in the supermarkets. This is the proper stuff. I have also stopped using Teflon.

My gran used to make her own white vinegar. she used a demijohn to ferment the malt mix for a couple weeks then boiled it for a while with a lid on the pot that had a tube running into a larger pot next to it. I was sure it was a still and told her she was making hooch but she was adamant it was vinegar for cooking :cool:

shazzap
15-Feb-14, 01:01
my gran used to make her own white vinegar. She used a demijohn to ferment the malt mix for a couple weeks then boiled it for a while with a lid on the pot that had a tube running into a larger pot next to it. I was sure it was a still and told her she was making hooch but she was adamant it was vinegar for cooking :cool:

lol.........
:)

Dadie
15-Feb-14, 01:02
Though I do have some advice when using the nozzle bit on the stream cleaner..dont get annoyed and write how annoyed you are with it...it takes twice as long if not longer to erase the message in the alphabet/number foam blocks than it does to get them looking OK!
The dirt removed as it is is horrendeous.......without erasing im not happy messages!

shazzap
15-Feb-14, 01:04
Though I do have some advice when using the nozzle bit on the stream cleaner..dont get annoyed and write how annoyed you are with it...it takes twice as long if not longer to erase the message in the alphabet/number foam blocks than it does to get them looking OK!
The dirt removed as it is is horrendeous.......without erasing im not happy messages!

You've lost me there Dadie.:eek:

RagnarRocks
15-Feb-14, 01:14
I think she means don't use the steam cleaner to write messages in foam children's blocks as its hard to get rid of them.

But I could be wrong :0))

orkneycadian
15-Feb-14, 14:13
From the time of the posting, I think she has been in Grannies hooch!

shazzap
15-Feb-14, 14:44
I think she means don't use the steam cleaner to write messages in foam children's blocks as its hard to get rid of them.

But I could be wrong :0))

Maybe........... :)

shazzap
15-Feb-14, 14:45
From the time of the posting, I think she has been in Grannies hooch!

What is Grannies Hooch. I may have to try some.;)

Dadie
15-Feb-14, 16:15
Nah I was still up to let my old doggie out for her last pee of the night....
She is getting incontinent and senile and needs out at midnight and again at 7am otherwise we have puddles.
Quickly typing as I had to let her back in...and the backdoor cannot be left open for her to wander back in otherwise the cat escapes and he isnt allowed out until after his neutering op!

Southern-Gal
15-Feb-14, 19:25
Hope this link works.

http://littlehouseonthevalley.com/2013/06/8-all-natural-kitchen-cleaning-recipes/

shazzap
15-Feb-14, 20:11
Hope this link works.

http://littlehouseonthevalley.com/2013/06/8-all-natural-kitchen-cleaning-recipes/

Yes thank you. I have a few links, but more welcome.

orkneycadian
16-Feb-14, 14:15
Not sure how all this reliance on baking soda et al is "natural and chemical free". According to Wikipedia, this is how you get your natural, non chemically baking soda....

Production[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sodium_bicarbonate&action=edit&section=2)]Main article: Solvay process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvay_process)
NaHCO3 is mainly prepared by the Solvay process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvay_process), which is the reaction of sodium chloride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chloride), ammonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonia), and carbon dioxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide) in water. Calcium carbonate is used as the source of CO2 and the resultant calcium oxide is used to recover the ammonia from the ammonium chloride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_chloride). The product shows a low purity (75 %). Pure product is obtained from sodium carbonate, water and carbon dioxide as reported in one of the following reactions. It is produced on the scale of about 100,000 tonnes/year (as of 2001).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate#cite_note-8)
NaHCO3 may be obtained by the reaction of carbon dioxide with an aqueous solution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqueous_solution) of sodium hydroxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hydroxide). The initial reaction producessodium carbonate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_carbonate):
CO2 + 2 NaOH → Na2CO3 + H2OFurther addition of carbon dioxide produces sodium bicarbonate, which at sufficiently high concentration will precipitate out of solution:
Na2CO3 + CO2 + H2O → 2 NaHCO3Commercial quantities of baking soda are also produced by a similar method: soda ash, mined in the form of the ore trona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trona), is dissolved in water and treated with carbon dioxide. Sodium bicarbonate precipitates as a solid from this method:
Na2CO3 + CO2 + H2O → 2 NaHCO3

sids
16-Feb-14, 15:11
Not sure how all this reliance on baking soda et al is "natural and chemical free". According to Wikipedia, this is how you get your natural, non chemically baking soda....


You trying to say it's not made by bakers?

I'm not having that!

Southern-Gal
16-Feb-14, 15:29
Not sure how all this reliance on baking soda et al is "natural and chemical free". According to Wikipedia, this is how you get your natural, non chemically baking soda....

Production[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sodium_bicarbonate&action=edit&section=2)]Main article: Solvay process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvay_process)
NaHCO3 is mainly prepared by the Solvay process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvay_process), which is the reaction of sodium chloride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chloride), ammonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonia), and carbon dioxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide) in water. Calcium carbonate is used as the source of CO2 and the resultant calcium oxide is used to recover the ammonia from the ammonium chloride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_chloride). The product shows a low purity (75 %). Pure product is obtained from sodium carbonate, water and carbon dioxide as reported in one of the following reactions. It is produced on the scale of about 100,000 tonnes/year (as of 2001).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate#cite_note-8)
NaHCO3 may be obtained by the reaction of carbon dioxide with an aqueous solution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqueous_solution) of sodium hydroxide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hydroxide). The initial reaction producessodium carbonate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_carbonate):
CO2 + 2 NaOH → Na2CO3 + H2OFurther addition of carbon dioxide produces sodium bicarbonate, which at sufficiently high concentration will precipitate out of solution:
Na2CO3 + CO2 + H2O → 2 NaHCO3Commercial quantities of baking soda are also produced by a similar method: soda ash, mined in the form of the ore trona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trona), is dissolved in water and treated with carbon dioxide. Sodium bicarbonate precipitates as a solid from this method:
Na2CO3 + CO2 + H2O → 2 NaHCO3


I knew that ;)