The North Highland Way

[Crackeday]

I thought it would be a good idea to see if the public think that the north highland way is a viable project in its current form.
Its a simple Yes or No answer, no ifs or buts just a plain old simple answer.

[LetsGoNorth]

I thought it would be a good idea to see if the public think that the north highland way is a viable project in its current form.
Its a simple Yes or No answer, no ifs or buts just a plain old simple answer.

Thank you Crackeday, very useful. People should read the information on the official page at

http://newsservice.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=177&action=edit&message=1 (http://newsservice.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=177&action=edit&message=1)

before voting, so they will be more informed. I have posted to the NHW Facebook page.

Thank you.

[LetsGoNorth]

I thought it would be a good idea to see if the public think that the north highland way is a viable project in its current form.
Its a simple Yes or No answer, no ifs or buts just a plain old simple answer.

Not forgetting of course that a development group is being set up. Of course, you do say in its current form which is good.

[jax]

Good idea & well done for setting up the poll Crackaday.

[Bobinovich]

People should read the information on the official page at

http://newsservice.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=177&action=edit&message=1 (http://newsservice.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=177&action=edit&message=1)

before voting

Which would be all very well if it was openly accessible without having to login / register :confused

[LetsGoNorth]

People are being obliged to sign in which they seem to object to so here is the direct link....

http://newsservice.com/

All of the info is on the North Highland Way page. Some of the letters and other stuff is protected as they are commercially sensitive.

[LetsGoNorth]

Good idea & well done for setting up the poll Crackaday.

Jax - you wanted the direct link so here it is

http://newsservice.com/

[crayola]

The first link was inaccessible to most. The second one is not a direct link to information about the NHW. This is a recurring pattern.

[jax]

The first link was inaccessible to most. The second one is not a direct link to information about the NHW. This is a recurring pattern.Yes it seems that way, quite frankly its getting slightly annoying getting fobbed off constantly

[LetsGoNorth]

Yes it seems that way, quite frankly its getting slightly annoying getting fobbed off constantly

The first link was to the page... you didn´t want to join the forum, which is fine.

The second link is to the news page which has a page about the NHW.

This link is to the tourism facing page www..org - we don´t want everybody thinking that we are always fighting up here. All they want to see is information about the route, which this link gives.

Frankly I am tired of trying to meet your constant demands for information and then people only complain when I give it, so will not be providing any more at all. I have tried to help for the best part of a week but people will not be helped, so I give up!

[Tubthumper]

The first link was to the page... you didn´t want to join the forum, which is fine. I couldn't find a link on that page which would let me join. Or anywhere else for that matter.


Frankly I am tired of trying to meet your constant demands for information and then people only complain when I give it, so will not be providing any more at all. I have tried to help for the best part of a week but people will not be helped, so I give up! I thought we were asking for clarification and information so we could offer support and assistance and find out more about what was being done on a voluntary basis (but only for cash) on behalf of us the community, and to maybe get behind the plan? But all the time it was you bending over backwards to accommodate us? With part information, links that don't link, invisible links to documents which may or may not have been written by you or not, and accusations that posts were tampered with. Golly, I am sorry I misunderstood your aims and objectives.
Well thank-you for your efforts. Jog along now there's a good chap.

[crayola]

The first link was to the page... you didn´t want to join the forum, which is fine. The second link is to the news page which has a page about the NHW.This link is to the tourism facing page www..org - we don´t want everybody thinking that we are always fighting up here. All they want to see is information about the route, which this link gives.Frankly I am tired of trying to meet your constant demands for information and then people only complain when I give it, so will not be providing any more at all. I have tried to help for the best part of a week but people will not be helped, so I give up!No. You're wrong again. The first link is for forum admin which I assume only you can access. You really don't understand links do you? Did you get your IT degree from Dunnet Head Educational Trust? :)

[Mrs Bradey]

No. You're wrong again. The first link is for forum admin which I assume only you can access. You really don't understand links do you? Did you get your IT degree from Dunnet Head Educational Trust? :)wow seven in favour, it might happen yet!

[LetsGoNorth]

wow seven in favour, it might happen yet!

You still haven´t got it, have you. It is happening...Now we´re organising events under the banner Knights of the North Highland Way.... great stuff.

[LetsGoNorth]

I couldn't find a link on that page which would let me join. Or anywhere else for that matter.

I thought we were asking for clarification and information so we could offer support and assistance and find out more about what was being done on a voluntary basis (but only for cash) on behalf of us the community, and to maybe get behind the plan? But all the time it was you bending over backwards to accommodate us? With part information, links that don't link, invisible links to documents which may or may not have been written by you or not, and accusations that posts were tampered with. Golly, I am sorry I misunderstood your aims and objectives.
Well thank-you for your efforts. Jog along now there's a good chap.

Not a chap, but a chapess....

I have provided the information it is all on the .com news service. The only place where I provide information. You may have been asking for clarification and assistance, but others have been deliberately rude that is why I´m not providing information here. Thanks for your help though. Maybe I should charging every time I post something here (lol). As for volunteers, I now have 6 working on the plan and no, I am not paid to manage them.

[jax]

You still haven´t got it, have you. It is happening...Now we´re organising events under the banner Knights of the North Highland Way.... great stuff.Yet another banner to confuse people even more, sad very sad.......

[Crackeday]

It seems that the public have spoken with a massive amount not in favour in its current form. Its sad that what is a great idea is being ruined by the mismanagement and reluctance to offer clear consice information to the very people who the project claims to be for? I only hope that it can be rescued and run with the proper methods which it deserves.

[LetsGoNorth]

How you can help:

Join our partners Walking World (free) and submit walks on the Way. When you go to the web site it will ask you to join, but if you email them, they will waive the fee if you submit walks. You will earn royalties every time your walk is downloaded....


http://walkingworld.com/Articles/Site-stuff/Submit-a-walk.aspx (http://walkingworld.com/Articles/Site-stuff/Submit-a-walk.aspx.)

If you have difficulties with this link, go directly to the Walking World web site.
This is a great way to raise some money for your communities, for yourself or for your favourite charity.

All admin is dealt with by Walking World.

[LetsGoNorth]

Yet another banner to confuse people even more, sad very sad.......

Can you explain what is confusing, please, Jax. is the overall branding of all the projects we do, the North Highland Way is just one. The events are called Knights of the North Highland Way .... we thought it was quite good!

[RagnarRocks]

You seem to be missing the point 36 or 83.72% are saying the idea under your stewardship is not viable and only 7 or 16.28% think it is 4 of which appear to be you using different logins. If this where a public company you'd be expected to stand aside after such a catastrophic loss of faith.

[LetsGoNorth]

Cycling - we have been speaking to cyclists and are having a cycling event under the banner Knights of the North Highland Way. This as well as the duathalon. There are parts of the route suitable for mountain biking, such as round Dunnet Head.

Horses - this is being dealt with by Jan at Highlands Unbridled. I did ask at Achalone, but they said they could not commit resources as they didn´t have them. They have paid into the project though. The lady on the north coast at Betty Hill is very busy and also couldn´t commit resources.



Hope this helps.

[LetsGoNorth]

It seems that the public have spoken with a massive amount not in favour in its current form. Its sad that what is a great idea is being ruined by the mismanagement and reluctance to offer clear consice information to the very people who the project claims to be for? I only hope that it can be rescued and run with the proper methods which it deserves.

If someone comes to me with a management and business plan which can be looked over by theirs and our accountants, I would be glad to talk to anyone about it. It is not all about money, it is about understanding the following:

The Land Reform Act
The Scottish Outdoor Access Code
How to run a project - building an issues database etc.
Working with other organisations who can help
Getting volunteers in and managing them

etc etc.

[Crackeday]

If someone comes to me with a management and business plan which can be looked over by theirs and our accountants, I would be glad to talk to anyone about it. It is not all about money, it is about understanding the following:

The Land Reform Act
The Scottish Outdoor Access Code
How to run a project - building an issues database etc.
Working with other organisations who can help
Getting volunteers in and managing them

etc etc.
"Working with other organisations who can help" How can you possibly do this when you are alienating the people who the project is aimed at? I think any organsation or body would give the project a wide berth in its current form. Will you be using the results of the poll on 1 of your 3 trillion websites? After all in the interests of fairness it would be the decent democratic thing to do?

[LetsGoNorth]

You seem to be missing the point 36 or 83.72% are saying the idea under your stewardship is not viable and only 7 or 16.28% think it is 4 of which appear to be you using different logins. If this where a public company you'd be expected to stand aside after such a catastrophic loss of faith.

Only from orgers Ragnar Rocks. You are not the only source of information. As I have been running this project since July, I will not be handing over to anyone unless they bring a viable management and business plan as suggested to Jax. Brough Bay Ltd. is a private company. I am not using different logins. Where do you get that idea?

[LetsGoNorth]

"Working with other organisations who can help" How can you possibly do this when you are alienating the people who the project is aimed at? I think any organsation or body would give the project a wide berth in its current form. Will you be using the results of the poll on 1 of your 3 trillion websites? After all in the interests of fairness it would be the decent democratic thing to do?

I have provided useful information this morning, Crackeday, about how folk can get involved. No, I will not be using your poll which is only the orgers´ opinions. It is a good idea though and I might present it to THC as a way of telling that this project cannot be run by one person. We are, after all, trying to emulate some of the facilities on the South West Path or the Welsh Coastal Path.

[LetsGoNorth]

"Working with other organisations who can help" How can you possibly do this when you are alienating the people who the project is aimed at? I think any organsation or body would give the project a wide berth in its current form. Will you be using the results of the poll on 1 of your 3 trillion websites? After all in the interests of fairness it would be the decent democratic thing to do?

As for working with organisations:

Walking World
The Highland Council
SNH
3 community Councils (so far)
Orkney Tourism Group
Paths for All
The Ramblers


As I said, a development group is being set up. As I launched and ran the Caithness & Sutherland Walking Festival for 6 years and have a wealth of information about walking in this area, I have a database of over 7500 walkers, Walking World has 60,000. That is who the project is aimed at. If the local populace want to help by inputting walks to WW, great.

[Crackeday]

I have provided useful information this morning, Crackeday, about how folk can get involved. No, I will not be using your poll which is only the orgers´ opinions. It is a good idea though and I might present it to THC as a way of telling that this project cannot be run by one person. We are, after all, trying to emulate some of the facilities on the South West Path or the Welsh Coastal Path.
Yes the poll is the view of "orgers" but arent "orgers" the public as well? If you are after support you are going the long way round about it! Doesnt the result reflect the lack of faith that the public have in your "vision"? If i was running the project i would be severly disheartened by the result and do my upmost to restore faith in it and actually ANSWER some of the questions that people have rather than skirt around the issues.

[crayola]

How you can help:Join our partners Walking World (free) and submit walks on the Way. When you go to the web site it will ask you to join, but if you email them, they will waive the fee if you submit walks. You will earn royalties every time your walk is downloaded....http://walkingworld.com/Articles/Site-stuff/Submit-a-walk.aspx (http://walkingworld.com/Articles/Site-stuff/Submit-a-walk.aspx.)If you have difficulties with this link, go directly to the Walking World web site.This is a great way to raise some money for your communities, for yourself or for your favourite charity.All admin is dealt with by Walking World.Does the link to Walking World work? No of course it doesn't work! Princess Tina doesn't understand links.

[LetsGoNorth]

Does the link to Walking World work? No of course it doesn't work! Princess Tina doesn't understand links.

As I said, if that doesn´t work as it is directly to their dbase, which obviously they have protected, then use
www.walkingworld.com (http://www.walkingworld.com). From there you can go to submit a walk.

[LetsGoNorth]

Yes the poll is the view of "orgers" but arent "orgers" the public as well? If you are after support you are going the long way round about it! Doesnt the result reflect the lack of faith that the public have in your "vision"? If i was running the project i would be severly disheartened by the result and do my upmost to restore faith in it and actually ANSWER some of the questions that people have rather than skirt around the issues.

I have answered all of the questions..I said I would use the results for any future deliberations with THC which is where it is best placed to be used and get maximum benefit for the project (not for me or BBL). I am not at all disheartened ... I am getting a lot of positivity from other sources.

[crayola]

As I said, if that doesn´t work as it is directly to their dbase, which obviously they have protected, then use www.walkingworld.com (http://www.walkingworld.com). From there you can go to submit a walk.Come on Tina admit it, you got the link wrong yet again! You should have checked before you posted as an IT professional would have done. You are an amateur at IT.

[Southern-Gal]

I think that after seeing all of the negativity surrounding the project it will be a minor miracle if anything comes of it.
But I do hope I am wrong :)
If it opened up to horses I would be first in the queue to ride it so my fingers and toes are crossed in hope.

[jax]

I have provided useful information this morning, Crackeday, about how folk can get involved. No, I will not be using your poll which is only the orgers´ opinions. It is a good idea though and I might present it to THC as a way of telling that this project cannot be run by one person. We are, after all, trying to emulate some of the facilities on the South West Path or the Welsh Coastal Path.I thought you'd said you sent a link of the poll to your Facebook account so that all your chummies could vote for you.....awwww didn't they want to vote for you? Never mind you can just choose to ignore the facts as usual & carry on regardless.

[Tubthumper]

I think that after seeing all of the negativity surrounding the project it will be a minor miracle if anything comes of it.
But I do hope I am wrong :)
If it opened up to horses I would be first in the queue to ride it so my fingers and toes are crossed in hope. Make sure you watch your horse though... take your eye off it for a second, it'll be gone and the road blocked!

[jax]

Make sure you watch your horse though... take your eye off it for a second, it'll be gone and the road blocked!Maybe horse locks could be supplied at various intervals along the way to prevent theft, you know like similar to bike racks??lol

[jax]

Or maybe a police escort

[RagnarRocks]

This is beginning to sound a bit Richard III a horse a horse my. ....... for a horse . Fill in the blank yourself with a suitable satirical remark

[Tubthumper]

A horse, a horse, my reputation for a horse...

[Bobinovich]

As I said, if that doesn´t work as it is directly to their dbase, which obviously they have protected, then use
www.walkingworld.com (http://www.walkingworld.com). From there you can go to submit a walk.

Nothing to do with their site - it was your link which was incorrect! Remove the superfluous full stop you added at the end and it works fine...
http://walkingworld.com/Articles/Site-stuff/Submit-a-walk.aspx

[LetsGoNorth]

You seem to be missing the point 36 or 83.72% are saying the idea under your stewardship is not viable and only 7 or 16.28% think it is 4 of which appear to be you using different logins. If this where a public company you'd be expected to stand aside after such a catastrophic loss of faith.


Good thing BBL is not a public company then. Not using multiple logins....Another one without technical skills. Tedious person.

[LetsGoNorth]

Nothing to do with their site - it was your link which was incorrect! Remove the superfluous full stop you added at the end and it works fine...
http://walkingworld.com/Articles/Site-stuff/Submit-a-walk.aspx

As I copied it directly from the URL...it should have been correct. Anyway, are you going to do any walks for them?

[LetsGoNorth]

Make sure you watch your horse though... take your eye off it for a second, it'll be gone and the road blocked!

Core Path Networks should already be open for horses...There are a lot of them on the north coast. Get in touch with the Highland Council Access Officer - he will be able to help. So you want it opened up ... do something then!