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Keyser_soze
12-Nov-13, 23:35
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2502072/Influx-Roma-migrants-spark-city-riots-warns-Blunkett.html

Seems like theyve already ruined parts of Glasgow, coming to a town near you soon, Its got to be Wick , Thurso just wouldnt get this sort of classic scum in their midst

jacko
13-Nov-13, 11:21
Yes , i read another report in the sun newspaper that from January 1rst 28 million Bulgarians & Slovakians are elligible to come to Britain and claim benefits . some of them were interviewed and admitted that they were gangs of thieves & burglars , that a forwarding party were already here in place checking out the good spots and what benefits can be gotten.
they said that they were not afraid of our jail s as life in them was much cushier than their life where they are now.
J.H.C. WHERE THINGS ARE BAD NOW , IT S GONNA GET WORSE. MUCH MUCH WORSE.
Surely now is the time to shut the door ,and take a stance like Australia has taken. (but of course their not in the eec ???)

Anfield
13-Nov-13, 12:20
The Daily Mail readers are alive and kicking I see.
What next, BNP/SDL protest marches in Caithness?
Numerous studies (not funded by the Daily Mail) have proven that migration is beneficial to the UK, and if Salmond succeeds in taking the country out of the UK then Scotland will need all the help it can get in rebuilding its economy

Alice in Blunderland
13-Nov-13, 12:50
http://news.sky.com/story/1164087/immigrants-contribute-25bn-tax-boost-to-ukI

I posted this link on another thread for information should anyone be interested in this study and it's outcome regarding migrants.No big scaremongering playing to the fears of the public headlines just a wee study looking at facts.

Kodiak
13-Nov-13, 13:52
Yes , i read another report in the sun newspaper that from January 1rst 28 million Bulgarians & Slovakians are elligible to come to Britain and claim benefits .

28 Million, Don't make me laugh it is the SUN winding you up again.

Current Population of Slovakia is just under 5.5 Million
Current Population of Bulgaria is Only 7.3 Million

So the entire Population of BOTH Countries is Only 12.8 Million. So 28 Million is rubbish. I do not know about you, but somehow I can not see the whole population of both countries deciding to come to the UK.

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=population+bulgaria

http://countrymeters.info/en/Slovakia/

jacko
13-Nov-13, 14:09
no your perfectly right. Kodiak, but you can be sure it ll be the scum that .ll want to be coming here.

emmz
13-Nov-13, 18:01
If we vote for independence and therefore aren't in the EU what happens to them all? do they become illegals?

jacko
13-Nov-13, 18:33
If we vote for independence and therefore aren't in the EU what happens to them all? do they become illegals?

doubt it , they ll already be here by then , and with human right s etc as it is . would take forever to sort it out if ever.

Anfield
13-Nov-13, 18:43
no your perfectly right. Kodiak, but you can be sure it ll be the scum that .ll want to be coming here.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2502072/Influx-Roma-migrants-spark-city-riots-warns-Blunkett.html

Seems like theyve already ruined parts of Glasgow, coming to a town near you soon, Its got to be Wick , Thurso just wouldnt get this sort of classic scum in their midst


doubt it , they ll already be here by then , and with human right s etc as it is . would take forever to sort it out if ever.

I will bet that the majority of these people will be better educated, and better mannered, than some of the idiot's that post on this forum

Westward
13-Nov-13, 18:46
I will bet that the majority of these people will be better educated, and better mannered, than some of the idiot's that post on this forum

In total agreement with you there :)

jacko
13-Nov-13, 19:26
I will bet that the majority of these people will be better educated, and better mannered, than some of the idiot's that post on this forum

well. just hope you ll still be saying that if they get housed right next door to you. good luck on that one then

jacko
13-Nov-13, 19:27
In total agreement with you there :)
(and the same to you.)

well. just hope you ll still be saying that if they get housed right next door to you. good luck on that one then

Anfield
13-Nov-13, 19:35
I thought, by the way that you and Keyzer... were hyperventilating, that they were all moving into your area.

Westward
13-Nov-13, 19:43
(and the same to you.)

well. just hope you ll still be saying that if they get housed right next door to you. good luck on that one then

Aye, well they might be better than the neighbour I currently have..native to the area, think they are something they clearly are not, nor ever have been, nor are likely to become..an intelligent person coming to live next door to me would be most welcome regardless of their origin. :)

jacko
13-Nov-13, 19:47
Aye, well they might be better than the neighbour I currently have..native to the area, think they are something they clearly are not, nor ever have been, nor are likely to become..an intelligent person coming to live next door to me would be most welcome regardless of their origin. :)

fair enough , hope your wish comes true .
ps. just part of an article in the Mail on line. could this be your new neighbours .
Since EU borders were opened up in 2004, 1,114,368 Eastern Europeans have uprooted to live in England
Until now, migrants from the two former communist nations (officially barred from working or claiming benefits in Britain until the freedom of movement rule comes in on January 1, 2014) have neatly exploited a gaping loophole in the EU rules.
It allows Bulgarians and Romanians claiming to be self-employed to get a British national insurance number and a raft of hand-outs, including housing and child benefit.
Many of the new arrivals have worked hard, cornering the market in car-wash companies, for instance.
But others are less industrious, and include Roma gipsies who, remarkably, now sell a third of all copies of the Big Issue.
Even selling one copy a week of the magazine (created to help the British homeless) miraculously gives them self-employed status and allows them to beg with impunity outside shops and on street corners.
Bulgarian and Romanian incomers have been blamed by police in their own countries and in Britain for a massive rise in organised crime, including the trafficking of children to Britain to beg, pickpocket, milk state benefits and even enter the sex trade.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252675/Were-way-Britain-In-year-29-million-Romanians-Bulgarians-right-settle-Britain-claim-benefits-And-gipsy-community-hardly-wait-here.html#ixzz2kYNSoV67
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Westward
13-Nov-13, 20:12
fair enough , hope your wish comes true .
ps. just part of an article in the Mail on line. could this be your new neighbours .
Since EU borders were opened up in 2004, 1,114,368 Eastern Europeans have uprooted to live in England
Until now, migrants from the two former communist nations (officially barred from working or claiming benefits in Britain until the freedom of movement rule comes in on January 1, 2014) have neatly exploited a gaping loophole in the EU rules.
It allows Bulgarians and Romanians claiming to be self-employed to get a British national insurance number and a raft of hand-outs, including housing and child benefit.
Many of the new arrivals have worked hard, cornering the market in car-wash companies, for instance.
But others are less industrious, and include Roma gipsies who, remarkably, now sell a third of all copies of the Big Issue.
Even selling one copy a week of the magazine (created to help the British homeless) miraculously gives them self-employed status and allows them to beg with impunity outside shops and on street corners.
Bulgarian and Romanian incomers have been blamed by police in their own countries and in Britain for a massive rise in organised crime, including the trafficking of children to Britain to beg, pickpocket, milk state benefits and even enter the sex trade.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252675/Were-way-Britain-In-year-29-million-Romanians-Bulgarians-right-settle-Britain-claim-benefits-And-gipsy-community-hardly-wait-here.html#ixzz2kYNSoV67
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And who was it that opened the doors to the British isles?

jacko
13-Nov-13, 21:02
And who was it that opened the doors to the British isles?

lol. sure was,nt me [lol]:lol:.. go n blame someone else. :lol:

Tangerine-Dream
13-Nov-13, 22:17
I will bet that the majority of these people will be better educated, and better mannered, than some of the idiot's that post on this forum

x2 This place could do with some variety and newcomers to the area.

wavy davy
13-Nov-13, 23:33
x2 This place could do with some variety and newcomers to the area.

A bit of research on these countries in terms of demographics, crime rates, unemployment etc is quite illuminating. Add the amount of crime they are already responsible for in this country and I'm not sure that I share your sentiment.

I made the acquaintance of a couple of them on the Tube. Didn't feel a thing as they took my wallet from a zipped pocket. By the time I had finished with the cops I was stuck in London overnight with nowt but loose change in my pocket. The cop asked for a description - I told them what I remembered and added that from their accents I thought they were French. The cop shook his head - nah Romanians said he. And so it turned out to be, they got three months. So maybe I'm prejudiced?

Variety and newcomers? I'm sure some of them will be decent hardworking people. I'm equally sure that the cops are going to have their hands full with the rest.

I'd stick with what we got, Teuchters, English, Poles, Pakistanis, Chinese et al., if I had the choice, but I don't.

Kodiak
14-Nov-13, 01:18
All I can say to the comments that the UK is about to be flooded with Thousands if not Millions of Criminals from Slovakia & Bulgaria is Claptrap. Sure there will be some who might be classed as a criminal. but there are quite a few of these in Caithness as well. No matter where you go in the world you will find unsavory people, but the Vast Majority of people are good honest folk who just want to work to earn a living and survive.

To brand every person from one country as a Malefactor is Disgusting. Slovakia and Bulgaria are just like any other county as they will have both good and bad people. What is also true is that the Vast Majority of these people will be good hard working citizens.

Anfield
14-Nov-13, 12:27
It is not very often I agree with you Kodiak, BT well said. The vast majority of immigrants are hard working and honest.
Without the infux of immigrant's in the 50's and 60' s the NHS would have collapsed. Similarly today it is a proven fact that most of the low paid jobs in the restaurant and crop picking industries are taken by immigrant workers, because native UK workers will not work for the low wages on offer.
Another point to consider is that in some countries the Western World cherry picks the best of the natural talent, and fast tracks them through the immigration process, thus leaving their original country with a skills shortage which harmpers their efforts in becoming a country less reliant on Foreign Aid.

Tangerine-Dream
14-Nov-13, 14:42
Variety and newcomers? I'm sure some of them will be decent hardworking people. I'm equally sure that the cops are going to have their hands full with the rest.

I'd stick with what we got, Teuchters, English, Poles, Pakistanis, Chinese et al., if I had the choice, but I don't.

Quite an amusing comment, it's like living in London and saying that all Scottish people are a bunch of crooks. Back in the early 80's there was an influx of Scot's from the "bad side" of Glasgow into certain areas of London..... they found employment as doormen in strip joints, brothels, nightclubs etc. and some of them were just plain old crooks...... having said that, there was also a very large influx of "Good" Scot's..... same with the Irish, the majority of them were decent people but a few of them were IRA and planted bombs all over the place..... to brand an entire population of a country as a bunch of crooks is just ridiculous. It's the same as a "few" people in Scotland who still think the "English" are the enemy, my god some people really do need to get out and about, do a bit of travelling and realise that there are good and bad people wherever you go. One of the nicest blokes I ever met was from Bulgaria and he was as straight and honest as you'll get..... Caithness really could do with a bit of variation, a bit of spicing up, and I am all for welcoming new people to the area with an open mind.

Keyser_soze
15-Nov-13, 00:26
I will bet that the majority of these people will be better educated, and better mannered, than some of the idiot's that post on this forum

Oh I remember you, the wee Liverpool fan that hated fergie, well the feelings mutual

Oddquine
15-Nov-13, 01:44
well. just hope you ll still be saying that if they get housed right next door to you. good luck on that one then

Given some of the posts on here......I am kinda glad I have just moved out of Caithness.........because I'm not going ever to be housed anywhere near any of you.

Oddquine
15-Nov-13, 02:05
fair enough , hope your wish comes true .
ps. just part of an article in the Mail on line. could this be your new neighbours .
Since EU borders were opened up in 2004, 1,114,368 Eastern Europeans have uprooted to live in England
Until now, migrants from the two former communist nations (officially barred from working or claiming benefits in Britain until the freedom of movement rule comes in on January 1, 2014) have neatly exploited a gaping loophole in the EU rules.
It allows Bulgarians and Romanians claiming to be self-employed to get a British national insurance number and a raft of hand-outs, including housing and child benefit.
Many of the new arrivals have worked hard, cornering the market in car-wash companies, for instance.
But others are less industrious, and include Roma gipsies who, remarkably, now sell a third of all copies of the Big Issue.
Even selling one copy a week of the magazine (created to help the British homeless) miraculously gives them self-employed status and allows them to beg with impunity outside shops and on street corners.
Bulgarian and Romanian incomers have been blamed by police in their own countries and in Britain for a massive rise in organised crime, including the trafficking of children to Britain to beg, pickpocket, milk state benefits and even enter the sex trade.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252675/Were-way-Britain-In-year-29-million-Romanians-Bulgarians-right-settle-Britain-claim-benefits-And-gipsy-community-hardly-wait-here.html#ixzz2kYNSoV67
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And which country's Government was too sodding thick/incompetent/brain dead (and any other epithet indicating a complete lack of intelligence) to set up a benefits system which couldn't be abused? Ooops..that would be ours, it appears, given it looks as if everybody would rather come here than anywhere else in the EU.....so why blame punters for taking advantage of our Government's utter incompetence?

But that would be another facet of the Westminster "Blame Game" bought into by so many who read the red-tops...the punter is always to blame for anything that goes wrong......and the Government who set up the legal rules/requirements which allows punters to take advantage are never to blame for anything!

Have any of you got a forelock left to tug, or has it already been pulled out at the roots?

Westward
15-Nov-13, 12:29
Given some of the posts on here......I am kinda glad I have just moved out of Caithness.........because I'm not going ever to be housed anywhere near any of you.

Nice one! :)

Westward
15-Nov-13, 12:31
And which country's Government was too sodding thick/incompetent/brain dead (and any other epithet indicating a complete lack of intelligence) to set up a benefits system which couldn't be abused? Ooops..that would be ours, it appears, given it looks as if everybody would rather come here than anywhere else in the EU.....so why blame punters for taking advantage of our Government's utter incompetence?

But that would be another facet of the Westminster "Blame Game" bought into by so many who read the red-tops...the punter is always to blame for anything that goes wrong......and the Government who set up the legal rules/requirements which allows punters to take advantage are never to blame for anything!

Have any of you got a forelock left to tug, or has it already been pulled out at the roots?

I am thinking they are all brain dead! definately followers, like sheep to the slaughter.

Westward
15-Nov-13, 12:33
Oh I remember you, the wee Liverpool fan that hated fergie, well the feelings mutual

Excuse me for interrupting but who is / was fergie?

Keyser_soze
15-Nov-13, 20:14
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2498479/In-January-thing-left-goat-Romanian-father-sevens-boast-mayor-says-half-population-villages-way-Britain-higher-salaries-generous-benefits.html

2little2late
15-Nov-13, 21:29
At least if they come to Caithness, they'll keep the coppers busy. Other than that they will provide manpower helping erect the windfarms.

jacko
15-Nov-13, 21:32
i guess it wont be long before we end up like Greece , a country on it s knees . bankrupt.
im all for people trying to better themselves , but not at the expense of others.
even if these people had some kind of skills other than begging .
any way were almost the poor man of europe . might come to the stage that when Romania is empty , us brits can go there . guess the weather woild be better.

jacko
15-Nov-13, 21:33
at least if they come to caithness, they'll keep the coppers busy. Other than that they will provide manpower helping erect the windfarms.

lol they d more n likely steal the windfarms for the scrap value.

Oddquine
17-Nov-13, 21:46
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2498479/In-January-thing-left-goat-Romanian-father-sevens-boast-mayor-says-half-population-villages-way-Britain-higher-salaries-generous-benefits.html

And which part of that Daily Fail diatribe is, to the people with the ability to think for themselves, really a condemnation of the punters who take advantage of the fact that our politicians in the UK couldn't hold a drinks party in a brewery with an abundance of beer, and still ensure that everybody got their fair share of the alcohol? I read it more as a condemnation of our UK politicians who are so incompetent that they are incapable of producing any policy which works the way the theories on which they base them claimed they would?

The Daily Fail, as is its wont, does not say that EU Nationals are restricted for three months after arriving in the UK....and if, in that three months, they have not worked, they are not entitled to social housing or social security benefits....but hey.that doesn't make as good a story as finding families who are hoping to come over and sponge off us......does it?

Now, given the fact that on here there is often whining about those UK born and bred citizens,and their families, who claim benefits and live in social housing despite having never worked, have no intentions of working and who reproduce to ensure income increases..I do kinda struggle to work out why there is such an objection to others coming here legally and having to actually work at something before latching on to the UK teat.

Come on people....zero hours contacts are, in our brave new world, "a job"...just as selling the "Big Issue" has become "a job"...I'd not be at all surprised nowadays if begging is not also "a job" according to our Government (after all, it can sometimes bring in some money)....so anyone who comes in and "works" at our "non-job" jobs is entitled to claim benefits...........and I fail to see why they can be blamed for taking advantage of our crap systems. any more than I can see why we should be blaming our own nationals for doing the same. After all......nobody claiming benefits, wherever their origins, dreamed up and implemented our welfare system...that was, is and always will be, down to our brain-dead politicians.....who struggle to see past the ends of the noses they have firmly planted in their remuneration/expenses/pension trough.

But maybe someone can explain the errors in my way of thinking to me?

Big Gaz
17-Nov-13, 23:09
But maybe someone can explain the errors in my way of thinking to me?

Sorry, this is a public forum, not a psychiatrists surgery :Razz