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motoxboy
03-Feb-07, 20:35
:~( woke up this morning to open my bedroom curtains to find my mirror of my beloved escort lying on the ground. when i went out i found that they had tried to rip my d/s one of aswell.tried to think who i have upset lately.as i went to pick my mirror up a policeman came walking round the corner it seems that i wasnt the only one.alot of other cars were damage in the same way.i count myself lucky as i can still use ma car.others werent as they had both mirrors completly ripped of. hope these vandals will get caught as the damage was costly to everyone.:~(

jayare
04-Feb-07, 02:39
Same happened here. If any of the 5 morons wishing to contact me, I am more than happy to have a chat with them.

las123
04-Feb-07, 11:56
my brother got both of his mirrors knocked off, one was there but one had vanished, he has to get a new one, they never think of the expense it costs us. As i went past yesterday along towerhill road and park avenue, what cars were done, it is terrible.

auldalto
04-Feb-07, 13:07
These vandals are carrying out these acts on a regular basis,with impunity.
Every week-end there are cars being vandalised in all parts of the town. What deterrents are available? When are the police going to put a stop to it?
Is it a fact that the police are under-manned in this area?

rfr10
04-Feb-07, 14:14
Is that the same area where the "little coop" incident happened?

Metalattakk
04-Feb-07, 17:31
These vandals are carrying out these acts on a regular basis,with impunity.
Every week-end there are cars being vandalised in all parts of the town. What deterrents are available? When are the police going to put a stop to it?
Is it a fact that the police are under-manned in this area?

What exactly do you think the police CAN do about it? Maybe they should employ one policeman for every car that's parked on the street, and have him stand next to each car all night?

Don't have a go at the police - it's not their fault that people break the law.

gollach
04-Feb-07, 18:50
Is that the same area where the "little coop" incident happened?

It's just a few streets away from that shop.

danc1ngwitch
04-Feb-07, 19:34
These vandals are carrying out these acts on a regular basis,with impunity.
Every week-end there are cars being vandalised in all parts of the town. What deterrents are available? When are the police going to put a stop to it?
Is it a fact that the police are under-manned in this area?

Yeah they are under manned , they all up at Ormlie lol

Buttercup
04-Feb-07, 22:50
Yeah they are under manned , they all up at Ormlie lol
Have I missed out on something here? What's happening in Ormlie now? :confused

fingalmacool
05-Feb-07, 01:41
What exactly do you think the police CAN do about it? Maybe they should employ one policeman for every car that's parked on the street, and have him stand next to each car all night?

Don't have a go at the police - it's not their fault that people break the law.

Dont own a car then, or never had the misfortune of having something you cherish damaged by some mindless moron. nobodies expecting the police to do what you suggested, but you would probably call a social worker if the moron was caught, and probably suggest that it was because he wasn't breast fed that he does these awfull things, aaww didums!!!.

Metalattakk
05-Feb-07, 02:10
Dont own a car then, or never had the misfortune of having something you cherish damaged by some mindless moron. nobodies expecting the police to do what you suggested, but you would probably call a social worker if the moron was caught, and probably suggest that it was because he wasn't breast fed that he does these awfull things, aaww didums!!!.

Eh, you've taken my post completely out of context there. My post was in response to the following quoted post, where auldalto clearly expects the Police to prevent these things happening:


These vandals are carrying out these acts on a regular basis,with impunity.
Every week-end there are cars being vandalised in all parts of the town. What deterrents are available? When are the police going to put a stop to it?
Is it a fact that the police are under-manned in this area?

The police are clearly not to blame here. They cannot possibly be expected to watch every single car parked in front of every single house in Thurso, at any given time. Or do you disagree? What would you suggest they do?

And for your information, I hope the culprits are caught, charged, and forced to repay in full each and every car owner that they have inconvenienced. And more.

Quite where you get the idea of social workers or mammary-deficiency in childhood from, I have no idea. I am certainly not a wishy-washy bleeding heart liberal, and I cannot for the life of me figure out from where you get the impression that I am. Maybe it's because I don't blame the police for everything that goes wrong in the world...

Humerous Vegetable
05-Feb-07, 11:41
These vandals are carrying out these acts on a regular basis,with impunity.
Every week-end there are cars being vandalised in all parts of the town. What deterrents are available? When are the police going to put a stop to it?
Is it a fact that the police are under-manned in this area?
Maybe the council could consider tageting these areas with CCTV cameras and improving street lighting if it needs it. Where I lived before, there were some very good Neighbourhood Watch schemes and vandalism levels were very low, compared to Thurso.

young
05-Feb-07, 12:17
Yeah they are under manned , they all up at Ormlie lol

Thought you were from Castletown not Ormlie so just how would you now were the police are?:roll:

Penelope Pitstop
05-Feb-07, 12:52
Maybe the council could consider tageting these areas with CCTV cameras and improving street lighting if it needs it. Where I lived before, there were some very good Neighbourhood Watch schemes and vandalism levels were very low, compared to Thurso.
CCTV is a good idea, but probably very expensive to install and man, i.e. someone watching the cameras all the time.

Or... I suppose the cameras could record with no one watching them continuously and the selected piece of footage replayed should an incident happen.

Cameras may act as a deterrent.....in which case the vandals would just move on to an area that didn't have any........can't win can we!!:(

danc1ngwitch
05-Feb-07, 19:55
Thought you were from Castletown not Ormlie so just how would you now were the police are?:roll:
cough cough splut splut an who r u ?? lol... tee hee oh noooo a police defender [lol]

danc1ngwitch
05-Feb-07, 19:58
not a laughin matter, tho there is gangs of children called, hmmmm thurso mad crew or something like that. ( drinkin is kewl ) apparently.:roll:

taz
05-Feb-07, 20:10
well just to let everyone know the police won't do anything....My vehicle was damaged by some youths in springpark and i seen them do it.....As you can imagine i was not impressed so rapidly put coat and shoes on and went after them....Lucky i have a big dog which helped.....I caught the culprit red handed with my ariel in her hand and i held onto her for about 10 minutes until the police arrived...She was there with 2 other guys, one of them tried to intimidate me as i'm not the biggest of lassies but i think i gave more of a tongue lashing and i think they were more fearful than me (especially with a big dog).......All i can say is that i contacted the police station several times with regards to this incident and was always told the police officer dealing with the case was on holiday or on a different shift.....I am yet still to speak to a policeman they never came to take a proper statement only few questions regarding if i had seen her do the damage which was yes.....Asked them to give me a call back and nearly 11 months down the line i am still waiting.......So guys don't hold your breath for any sort of reaction from the police as i am probably one of the many waiting to hear back....

cmack
05-Feb-07, 20:28
not a laughin matter, tho there is gangs of children called, hmmmm thurso mad crew or something like that. ( drinkin is kewl ) apparently.:roll:

"caithness mental crew" i think you might be on about.

it was more than likely the exact same people who are in this so called "crew" that did it. earlier on that night they chased and threatened my sister and girlfriend, and a group of their friends. there was quite a big group of them, and they are the type of people who would do this. i could probably name a few, but maybe shouldnt, just incase it wasnt them lol.

danc1ngwitch
05-Feb-07, 20:29
at wot time is cars bein damaged?. Do parents not question their youngsters to find out what they up 2 ???Maybe the parents can listen and hear the children talk, we all know how they love ta talk... Parents need ta deal wea this...

cmack
05-Feb-07, 20:47
i really doubt that if someone asked their kids what they had been up to, they would just come out and say that they went around vandalising cars al night

golach
05-Feb-07, 20:49
The little darlings have made the BBC News, see CCWS front page, now they will thnk they are famous, no stopping them now [disgust]

lab
05-Feb-07, 21:04
dancing witch, most of the members of the caithness mental crew live in springpark, only 2 live in ormlie as far as i am aware. A few live out of town, and yes like cmack i could name most of them, Most of their parents know who they are and what they do but just dont care. My daughter was one of the girls threatened and chased we gave the police names and told parents of some involved only for it to be denyed that their children were even out.
If it happens again cmack you will be taking her all the way home and facing the dreaded dad each time.

dragonfly
05-Feb-07, 21:14
is this the same gang of kids that have been hanging around the Mall since summertime giving cheek to those who pass and heading up the river with their carrier bags of cheap cider??

if it is, I'm suprised by a couple of them, sure their parents would have a fit if they knew their kids were involved

lab
05-Feb-07, 21:22
yep same kids, and yes im suprised at some of them on fri night one of the girls was only 11 in first year and hanging out drinking with boys some as old as 18, but when we told her mum we were told she was not there. Not that mum and dad knew where she was as they were in the com

gollach
05-Feb-07, 22:43
Is this the same crew who were hangin round "wasters' bench" in a big ugly mob on Friday night? There were gangs of them on both sides of the street. They seemed even younger than the crowd who used to hang around in that swing park in Beach Road.

johno
05-Feb-07, 23:03
yea, it,s a sad sign of the times, there is a similar gang of young thugs that hang out in wick. appears that their parents dont give a hoot what they do so long as they are out of the home & out of their sight. dont really know whats up with youngsters these days, dont think that they are taught to respect people or their possessions. it just has to fall on their parents surely.??

pedromcgrory
06-Feb-07, 02:04
"caithness mental crew" i think you might be on about.

it was more than likely the exact same people who are in this so called "crew" that did it. earlier on that night they chased and threatened my sister and girlfriend, and a group of their friends. there was quite a big group of them, and they are the type of people who would do this. i could probably name a few, but maybe shouldnt, just incase it wasnt them lol.

lol caithness mental crew ,is at meant to be like so solid crew lol ,never heard so much rubbish catch em and gie em a kick up e rear i bet half o em would either start greeting or run for there mummys ,put up we it and ur going to get it i say in 1 way or another ,groups of youths may think there it but they aint once confronted ,

young
06-Feb-07, 13:53
cough cough splut splut an who r u ?? lol... tee hee oh noooo a police defender [lol]

i was merely pointing out that you are making an assumption on ORMLIE about the police being there all the time!!!! When nowadays its obviously not the case with cars being damaged in springpark and a while ago in the papers there were people scratching folks cars in Castletown, so my point is its not just vandalism in Ormlie nowadays

johno
06-Feb-07, 15:43
i was merely pointing out that you are making an assumption on ORMLIE about the police being there all the time!!!! When nowadays its obviously not the case with cars being damaged in springpark and a while ago in the papers there were people scratching folks cars in Castletown, so my point is its not just vandalism in Ormlie nowadays
vandalism is vandalism no matter where it,s done it,s mindless senseless
and absolutely needless, not only should the guilty ones be puniished they aught to be held accountable for the full amount of damage done. i recall a case where the guilty person was in court and the sherriff made him pay the excess on the motorists insurance. this was ok but what about the guy,s ncb, this would likely go sky high through no fault of his own. the vandal should have been fined & made to pay the full cost of the repair + compensate the owner for his inconveniance

young
06-Feb-07, 18:01
vandalism is vandalism no matter where it,s done it,s mindless senseless
and absolutely needless, not only should the guilty ones be puniished they aught to be held accountable for the full amount of damage done. i recall a case where the guilty person was in court and the sherriff made him pay the excess on the motorists insurance. this was ok but what about the guy,s ncb, this would likely go sky high through no fault of his own. the vandal should have been fined & made to pay the full cost of the repair + compensate the owner for his inconveniance

Tell me about it . We just got a newish car 4 years ago and some idiot was drunk and was rolling on the bonnet banging into the sides and heavily dented it!!! he admitted it to the police went to court and guess what he got away with it not even compo or nothing. The sheriff decided he was so drunk he didnt realise what he was doing[disgust] . Then the sheriff told US to make a claim and get the insurance to pay for it!!! to my anger i replyed why should we make a claim when the little sh#t admitted it and is now happily smirking away. So basically the sheriff was saying as long as your doing it when your drunk you will get away with it.... But funnily enough the following week the same thing happened to a sheriffs car the young culrit was drunk also and he gets fine ,compensation order and community service. Where is the justice nowadays

concerned resident
06-Feb-07, 19:08
The Police are to busy chasing car drivers, or standing around with the radar gun, they have to get there points allocation for the month. Would not advise trying to assist in catching vandals, been there done that, police do not want to prosecute, then the Sheriff lets them off, and you will probably get your windows smashed.

johno
06-Feb-07, 19:40
Tell me about it . We just got a newish car 4 years ago and some idiot was drunk and was rolling on the bonnet banging into the sides and heavily dented it!!! he admitted it to the police went to court and guess what he got away with it not even compo or nothing. The sheriff decided he was so drunk he didnt realise what he was doing[disgust] . Then the sheriff told US to make a claim and get the insurance to pay for it!!! to my anger i replyed why should we make a claim when the little sh#t admitted it and is now happily smirking away. So basically the sheriff was saying as long as your doing it when your drunk you will get away with it.... But funnily enough the following week the same thing happened to a sheriffs car the young culrit was drunk also and he gets fine ,compensation order and community service. Where is the justice nowadays
That is just the law being the ass that it is. whether one is drunk or sober
[there ARE no grey areas] one is accountable for his or her actions and should pay the price. FULL STOP.

Blazing Sporrans
07-Feb-07, 17:01
The Police are to busy chasing car drivers, or standing around with the radar gun, they have to get there points allocation for the month. Would not advise trying to assist in catching vandals, been there done that, police do not want to prosecute, then the Sheriff lets them off, and you will probably get your windows smashed.
It's nonsense like this from ill-informed people that really annoys me. I have links with the Police although not in the Northern Constabulary area. My brother is a Chief Inspector in Grampian Police and he categorically assures me that none of the Scottish Police forces work to 'points allocations' or other such nonsense as you decide to fabricate concerned resident. Similarly with your rubbish about 'probably get your windows smashed'. The Police cannot be everywhere at once and depend upon community residents to assist them in either reporting incidents to them, or by asking eye-witnesses to provide statements. Too often they meet the 'I don't want to become involved' attitude of small-minded people like you, who then turn around and have the gall to complain that nothing is done about all the car vandalisms, broken windows etc etc.

I spoke to a local Police Officer yesterday, who informed me that while enquiries are still ongoing into the latest Springpark car vandalisms, that a positive line of enquiry was being pursued and that one or two of the culprits had already been identified and interviewed by Police. He also said it was worthy of note that within the last three or four months, that a core group of youths in Wick and a core group of youths in Thurso had been reported for almost 200 separate vandalisms. So concerned resident, instead of fabricating your own nonsense about the Police not wanting to prosecute, why not try and speak with them and find out what is actually going on in your neighbourhood?

danc1ngwitch
07-Feb-07, 17:10
dancing witch, most of the members of the caithness mental crew live in springpark, only 2 live in ormlie as far as i am aware. A few live out of town, and yes like cmack i could name most of them, Most of their parents know who they are and what they do but just dont care. My daughter was one of the girls threatened and chased we gave the police names and told parents of some involved only for it to be denyed that their children were even out.
If it happens again cmack you will be taking her all the way home and facing the dreaded dad each time.

hungry hill is spring park...wow we all need to talk to our children...

concerned resident
07-Feb-07, 18:13
Blazing Sporrans
I have to live in the real world, and not rely on hear say from relatives.
With your attitude problem, to the truth, I hope I am not your neighbour. I just hope that one day when you grow up, and have to face what is happening in the real world, it is not to painful for you to accept.

Metalattakk
07-Feb-07, 18:43
[lol]

"concerned resident", with your attitude of dismissal and ignorance of the truth, I hope that one day you can find what you're looking for.

But unless your attitude changes, you're likely to be fumbling in the dark eternally.

Blazing Sporrans
07-Feb-07, 19:10
Blazing Sporrans
I have to live in the real world, and not rely on hear say from relatives.
With your attitude problem, to the truth, I hope I am not your neighbour. I just hope that one day when you grow up, and have to face what is happening in the real world, it is not to painful for you to accept.
concerned resident, I rely on information I choose to learn first-hand and not that which I choose to make up and spout forth as if it were gospel - I refer you to your earlier post for that! If you can provide a source for the 'information' you provided, such as people having windows broken in retaliation (again speak to your local Police, the same officer told me that this simply does not happen as a matter of routine like you suggest) then please do so. I do live in the real world, and I'm very much grown-up, probably your elder as it happens! And if you were my neighbour and had property damaged, I'd still be happy to give a statement to the Police regarding anything I'd witnessed, regardless of your sorry attitude to community spirit and the principles of doing the right thing. Oh, and the Police do want to prosecute by the way - it's not their fault if they are let down by nonsensical decisions by the judicial system as johno and young already gave examples of.

danc1ngwitch
07-Feb-07, 19:25
i was merely pointing out that you are making an assumption on ORMLIE about the police being there all the time!!!! When nowadays its obviously not the case with cars being damaged in springpark and a while ago in the papers there were people scratching folks cars in Castletown, so my point is its not just vandalism in Ormlie nowadays
calm down deeer!!!ur right,98percent o ma assumptions r wrong...(turns head) kk mm mp xxx:roll:

lab
07-Feb-07, 22:18
dancing witch i can never work out if your comments are just a poor attempt at sarcasm or you really are as ignorant as your posts paint you.

dragonfly
07-Feb-07, 23:06
think there may be a post on here tomorrow entitled "car damage in Ormlie Road"! Huge gang of kids hanging around DSS bedsits on Ormlie Road traipsing from one bedsit to another probably getting high on drink/drugs or both knowing one of the flats they are visiting [evil]

now where did I put my earplugs???[disgust]

gollach
07-Feb-07, 23:19
think there may be a post on here tomorrow entitled "car damage in Ormlie Road"! Huge gang of kids hanging around DSS bedsits on Ormlie Road traipsing from one bedsit to another probably getting high on drink/drugs or both knowing one of the flats they are visiting [evil]

now where did I put my earplugs???[disgust]

Not forgetting the crowd of stunned-looking school kids in the middle of Thurso tonight. Somewhere in this town there is a licensed shop going "chi-ching" all the way to the bank tomorrow. How can these kids get their hands on SO MUCH alcohol?

The Big Fish
08-Feb-07, 01:21
Just logged into this sorry post and read some serious amounts of pseudo intellectual claptrap posted by some sorry excuses for concerned residents who clearly have nothing better to do than make up stories without evidencing them about law enforcement and then rubbishing factual information posted by members who are obviously more highly intelligent and well informed than they are.

I was so insensed by this post that I contacted the police and have just learned that the youths responsible have been and are being reported to the judicial system for their crimes.....Humble pie anyone?

Has it actually occurred to some people that the vandals and the Police if we are to compare extremes are actually both representatives in each of their chosen fields of expertise that are birthed and raised in our communities, are people who are free to make their own choices and none are forced to tread their chosen paths......mmmm now lets think!! now does responsible parenting come into this anywhere?

Whilst then looking at some of these posts and asking myself who the concerned residents are favouring I can only draw one conclusion if the spouters of hot air are not willing to stand up as part of the great community they so obviously desire and be counted. Let two or three highly pushed cops deal with a population of 10,000 plus, there's the community spirit........

My next rant is concerning speeding. As a father I welcome seeing the Police with radar guns trying to encourage responsible driver behaviour which is something clearly lacking especially around our schools and wouldn't need to attract attention if nobody broke the law in their cars.

I conclude by urging you not to bother responding to my rants trying to justify your negativity because I will not dignify your limp responses with a reply or the waste the electricity it would take to sign onto this post again.

I finally advise the broomstick jocky that a drop in classification doesn't make it legal, but then again in your world I expect it probably does......

concerned resident
08-Feb-07, 09:04
The Big Fish
You are so righteous, it is a honour for me, that you would communicate with a menial like my self. As for the statement I made it was the truth, except the bit about the windows, that was a possibility. I can sleep better at night now , knowing that you are out there consulting with the police, and making the community a better place. Glad to hear those responsible have been referred to the Judicial system, and all those people with damage, having to fill in there claims forms, then having to make the time get those repairs done, will be delighted. I am happy that you have so much faith in our Judicial System, unfortunately I am not so enlightened.

Torvaig
08-Feb-07, 09:14
Thank you Big Fish for your contribution and for your voice of reason!

danc1ngwitch
08-Feb-07, 13:38
Just logged into this sorry post and read some serious amounts of pseudo intellectual claptrap posted by some sorry excuses for concerned residents who clearly have nothing better to do than make up stories without evidencing them about law enforcement and then rubbishing factual information posted by members who are obviously more highly intelligent and well informed than they are.

I was so insensed by this post that I contacted the police and have just learned that the youths responsible have been and are being reported to the judicial system for their crimes.....Humble pie anyone?

Has it actually occurred to some people that the vandals and the Police if we are to compare extremes are actually both representatives in each of their chosen fields of expertise that are birthed and raised in our communities, are people who are free to make their own choices and none are forced to tread their chosen paths......mmmm now lets think!! now does responsible parenting come into this anywhere?

Whilst then looking at some of these posts and asking myself who the concerned residents are favouring I can only draw one conclusion if the spouters of hot air are not willing to stand up as part of the great community they so obviously desire and be counted. Let two or three highly pushed cops deal with a population of 10,000 plus, there's the community spirit........

My next rant is concerning speeding. As a father I welcome seeing the Police with radar guns trying to encourage responsible driver behaviour which is something clearly lacking especially around our schools and wouldn't need to attract attention if nobody broke the law in their cars.

I conclude by urging you not to bother responding to my rants trying to justify your negativity because I will not dignify your limp responses with a reply or the waste the electricity it would take to sign onto this post again.

I finally advise the broomstick jocky that a drop in classification doesn't make it legal, but then again in your world I expect it probably does......

wow!!! good, so lets look an talk ta our children...

danc1ngwitch
08-Feb-07, 13:44
dancing witch i can never work out if your comments are just a poor attempt at sarcasm or you really are as ignorant as your posts paint you.

and who r u ??? hu?? u were put on here to judge others no well ( shakes head ) what i am like is nothing and i mean nothing to do wea u... ops am i being an individual and saying what i think.. judge me not now leave me be as i am probably brighter tha u will ever be.. now be gone... just as u understand not what i print... ( ops bill warn me if u like its a forum an i sayin ma peace ) ... xx peace to all [lol]

lab
08-Feb-07, 15:20
to quote dancing witch.
and who r u ??? hu?? u were put on here to judge others no well ( shakes head ) what i am like is nothing and i mean nothing to do wea u... ops am i being an individual and saying what i think.. judge me not now leave me be as i am probably brighter tha u will ever be.. now be gone... just as u understand not what i print... ( ops bill warn me if u like its a forum an i sayin ma peace ) ... xx peace to all [lol]

PARDON?

danc1ngwitch
08-Feb-07, 15:44
an for some ignorance is bliss:roll:

danc1ngwitch
08-Feb-07, 15:59
yep same kids, and yes im suprised at some of them on fri night one of the girls was only 11 in first year and hanging out drinking with boys some as old as 18, but when we told her mum we were told she was not there. Not that mum and dad knew where she was as they were in the com
always judgin.. ops here's a Quote " Lectures from police lectures and threats from social workers school teachers and doctors. I have grounded him taking away tv and computer, " ( tut tut ) yet some feel the need to ridicule others, lets just look to our own shall we, at the end of the day these are other ppls children we talk about...

lab
08-Feb-07, 16:30
the difference being dancing witch is, i know my 12 year od son has behaviour problems and i have done and worked with all the authorities to address his problems. I approached the school social workers and the police i did not wait for them to come knocking at my door.

danc1ngwitch
08-Feb-07, 16:38
i am sorry. Low blow from me, please accept ma appoligy x

lab
08-Feb-07, 16:40
and mine if i got personal

Metalattakk
09-Feb-07, 06:00
The Big Fish
You are so righteous, it is a honour for me, that you would communicate with a menial like my self. As for the statement I made it was the truth, except the bit about the windows, that was a possibility.

No it's not. What you said was pure conjecture and mostly utter lies. Let me remind you, you said the following -

The Police are to busy chasing car drivers, or standing around with the radar gun, they have to get there points allocation for the month. Would not advise trying to assist in catching vandals, been there done that, police do not want to prosecute, then the Sheriff lets them off, and you will probably get your windows smashed.

To paraphrase Mark Twain: "There are lies, damn lies, and statements by 'concerned resident'."

Now, the points allocation issue was covered earlier by Blazing Sporrans, who has anecdotal evidence against your imaginary ramblings. I know who I'm going to believe on that one.

The 'Police do not want to prosecute' argument you offered has been taken care of by The Big Fish, again using anecdotal evidence, and again is far more believable than the rantings of an anti-authoritarian such as you appear to be.


I can sleep better at night now , knowing that you are out there consulting with the police, and making the community a better place. Glad to hear those responsible have been referred to the Judicial system, and all those people with damage, having to fill in there claims forms, then having to make the time get those repairs done, will be delighted. I am happy that you have so much faith in our Judicial System, unfortunately I am not so enlightened.

Then allow yourself to be enlightened. Open those thick curtains and let the light flood into your darkened mind.

I've said this before :- The Police are not the enemy here. The vandals are.

concerned resident
09-Feb-07, 08:36
Metalattakk
I donít know how you can call me a liar, I am the one who had the to go through this unfortunate process. I have to live in the real world where this type of thing happens, even if you are told it does not, I think you read and believe to much of the propaganda dished out. Hope you wake up and smell the coffee one day.

johno
09-Feb-07, 12:40
i dont think that the police are to blame here , i reckon that they do the best they can, if witnesses do not come forward to give statements it must make their job so much more difficult. When the culprits are taken to court the judicary seem to take a slightly more than leniant view of the crimes and set them free with just a wristslap or a few hours community service.
my own personal view [and i am a parent myself] is that the parents aught to be held responsable for the crimes that those juviniles commit, if this were the case then there would be more control over their offspring and if they had to stump up for the damage you can bet your boots there would be less vandalism throughout the county :(

Metalattakk
09-Feb-07, 14:31
Metalattakk
I donít know how you can call me a liar, I am the one who had the to go through this unfortunate process.

I can call you a liar, due to the lies you are ignorantly spreading.

You said the Police "do not want to prosecute", did you not? This is a blatant lie. For a start, the police do not prosecute anyone - that's the job of the Procurator Fiscal. Perhaps you can genuflect your vitriolic venom in their direction instead of knee-jerking your hatred on to the poor downtrodden Bobby.


I have to live in the real world where this type of thing happens, even if you are told it does not, I think you read and believe to much of the propaganda dished out. Hope you wake up and smell the coffee one day.

All you have said, including the preposterous notion that police are "to (sic) busy chasing car drivers, or standing around with the radar gun" to raise their "points allocation for the month", is utterly and entirely without any kind of foundation at all.

This is purely invective propagated by you, the perceived victim, designed to make you feel a little bit better.

Perhaps instead of advising others to "wake up and smell the coffee", you might reconsider your decision to abstain from joining the queue where they handed out "Reasoned Intelligence".

danc1ngwitch
09-Feb-07, 17:37
So much anger because of this.
Truth is *our children are causing damage*
fix it together.
I have spoke to my girl, this is how i found out about the different gangs of youths.
Question? What would I do if i found out that my girl was involved.
The damage would be paid for in full, and she would do all the odd jobs that these people had to do... No I ain't slaving her out that after all is another post. lol...

concerned resident
09-Feb-07, 21:06
Metalattakk
I can call you a liar, due to the lies you are ignorantly spreading.

You said the Police "do not want to prosecute", did you not? This is a blatant lie. For a start, the police do not prosecute anyone - that's the job of the Procurator Fiscal. Perhaps you can genuflect your vitriolic venom in their direction instead of knee-jerking your hatred on to the poor downtrodden Bobby.

To Clarify,
the police did not want to pursue, the matter, to the proculator Fiscal, it was only that i insisted.
You really need to get out , and get a life. your hatred is seaping out.

lab
09-Feb-07, 21:26
you are right dancing witch there are two distinct groups of kids in the town, the first with who my oldest daughter hangs with on the whole a decent group (im sure there is a couple of bad apples in the bunch )I do recall them breaking a window at miller school once they phoned the police themselves and had a whip round to pay for the damage. Yes they group en mass and I have said to her people would find this intimidating, but thankfully what with highers and the like she doesnot go out that often anymore.
The other group who no doubt if alloud out my youngest would be involved with hang out in the Spacey (the bit behind regency jewelers) and what they call the gangy hut on janet street dont need to be brain of britain to guess how it got the name. These are the kids who's idea of fun is to raid gardens vandelise cars and of course get drunk at every giving oppertunity. Two distinct groups but with one thing in common there is nothing in the town for them to do.
There is the youth club but have you ever seen a poster or advert anywhere to tell them when it is open and what goes on in it.

danc1ngwitch
09-Feb-07, 21:36
some of the castletown youths habve their own so called gang.. but some are also apart of the thurso gang... I was telling my daughter and sons of when i was in a gang... no laughing now ... there was about maybe 5 or 6 of us and we used to have a hide out at the old fun factory in castletown, the worst thing we used to do was debate where and when we'd get our next packet o crisps from ... [lol]

s.mack
09-Feb-07, 23:54
dancingyouth i totally agree with you it is children causing damage.But the differant gangs have there own fun.

the gang from ormlie run threw peoples gardens

spring park gang vandalise cars

and the pennyland gang or cmc do everything

s.mack
09-Feb-07, 23:57
sorry i ment dancinwitch lol

Metalattakk
10-Feb-07, 02:15
To Clarify,
the police did not want to pursue, the matter, to the proculator Fiscal, it was only that i insisted.
You really need to get out , and get a life. your hatred is seaping out.

The Police have no option but to "pursue, the matter, to the proculator(sic) Fiscal" unless there is insufficient evidence to substantiate a possible prosecution.

Please, get your facts right in future.

Your attempted clarification is noted, and dismissed summarily, due to factual inaccuracies.

danc1ngwitch
10-Feb-07, 10:05
Well it being Friday night last night, people would have been on edge wondering if they were goin to awake to more damage.
I once had some one pinchin ma coal, and being a bit of a peepin tom... I took it upon myself which was stupid infact very stupid to set traps.
So I got several flat peices of wood and the largest nails i could buy and i went behind the shed and hammered for a while untill i had leathal wood.
I went through my bedtime routine, letting dog out etc etc.
I crawled back downstairs and snuck out and layed these wood strips all around where the person was possibly coming in at.
I went back to bed it was late no children was about thankfully...
I awoke to a noise, by time i could see the man had got away...
I eventually noted the man with the limp for weeks and weeks and guess what not a word could i say because i had indeed broke the law:roll: I quickly burnt the wood that contained blood and i spent some time being very afraid...

johno
10-Feb-07, 11:01
ha ha ha , [lol] very good dancingwitch, i think id have done similar, why cant you protect your property,god knows coal is dear enough without you having it stolen from under your nose. bet he wont be back in a long time.
good for you i say.??:lol:

Blazing Sporrans
10-Feb-07, 16:36
To Clarify, the police did not want to pursue, the matter, to the proculator Fiscal, it was only that i insisted.
You really need to get out , and get a life. your hatred is seaping out.
concerned resident, not that I want to enter a never-ending debate about right and wrong here but..... erm, how do I say this nicely...... you're wrong again. The Police are not a prosecuting agency. In the recent past, prior to the formation of the CPS in England, the Police did prosecute cases in lower courts - this has never been the case in Scotland, where we have always had the services of the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service. The Police are merely one of many reporting agencies to the COPFS, although also tasked with law enforcement duties. The Police WILL NOT (and I can state this quite categorically because I have researched the matter) report someone to the Procurator Fiscal only because someone insists as you have incorrectly suggested. The Police are given guidelines nationally from the Lord Advocate (the senior Law Officer in Scotland), the Solicitor General, Crown Office and the Association of Chief Police Officers (Scotland). On a local level, they may receive instruction from the Regional Procurator Fiscal or their local PF or, as in the case of Wick, the PF Depute. They will follow these guidelines rigorously and due to increased levels of public scrutiny they have no remit to use a level of discretion that was once afforded the old-fashioned bobby on the beat.

A lot of people operate under a misconception, that if they make an allegation or complaint to the Police and then later withdraw it, that the Police can then do nothing - not so! The Police can still report the matter to the PF, who can then still pursue the matter through the court if they believe it to be in the public interest.

Anyway, now that that's over, instead of lambasting the radar-toting Police (you haven't incurred a speeding fine by any chance concerned resident?) why not enjoy the fact that groups have been caught for something like 200 vandalisms recently and that those responsible for the last weekend's 'spree' have now also been caught? Hopefully, if there's any decency amongst the parents, the little darlings will be working for a long time to repay the cost of any damages incurred.

johno
10-Feb-07, 17:14
Well it being Friday night last night, people would have been on edge wondering if they were goin to awake to more damage.
I once had some one pinchin ma coal, and being a bit of a peepin tom... I took it upon myself which was stupid infact very stupid to set traps.
So I got several flat peices of wood and the largest nails i could buy and i went behind the shed and hammered for a while untill i had leathal wood.
I went through my bedtime routine, letting dog out etc etc.
I crawled back downstairs and snuck out and layed these wood strips all around where the person was possibly coming in at.
I went back to bed it was late no children was about thankfully...
I awoke to a noise, by time i could see the man had got away...
I eventually noted the man with the limp for weeks and weeks and guess what not a word could i say because i had indeed broke the law:roll: I quickly burnt the wood that contained blood and i spent some time being very afraid...
PS ,forgot to say ,bet your coal thief was HOPPING MAD. ha ha.

danc1ngwitch
10-Feb-07, 17:35
hoppin mad indeed, he always looks at me funny lol

MJB
10-Feb-07, 22:00
Don;t want to resurrect an old thread but only just found this.

It's stupid doing things like this, completely ignorant to other people.

This is also the same group that had broken two windows at the Naver pitch changing rooms. (Locks, broken. Most likely for a drinking den)

Vandalising cars just isn't right, tbh they should be made pay for the damage and be given community service....noe of this childrens panel for a slap on the wrist. (unless they've been in trouble there 20 times already, then it's a £20 fine :roll: )


Is this the same crew who were hangin round "wasters' bench" in a big ugly mob on Friday night? There were gangs of them on both sides of the street. They seemed even younger than the crowd who used to hang around in that swing park in Beach Road.

Many of them are younger than us yes, however they couldn't be more diffrent.

They are a bunch of NEDs hanging around to get drunk and do damage like this.
We only met up for socialising.....we've gone through this.

cmack
16-Feb-07, 18:20
Don't know if anyone else has posted this already, and can't see it anywhere, so, just thught i'd say that i heard the police caught the people who damaged about 20 cars in the spring park area a couple weeks back.

it wasn't who i thought it would have been. i think they are all to pay for the damage, and all of them apart from one wer under 16. pretty sure the only over 16 is getting charged for it. right-fuly so!

danc1ngwitch
16-Feb-07, 19:54
Well, well maybe they will behave themselves in future.
What a red face that will be for them.

Royster1911
16-Feb-07, 20:46
These vandals have been told to go round the victims houses and explain themselves. One of them got out of bed at 0130 to go to a party and parents did not know he had left the house. They were rightfully so, horrified, and dad escorted their son around the houses. Well done him!!!!

changilass
16-Feb-07, 22:23
Well done that dad

Moira
16-Feb-07, 22:27
cmack - I've merged your new thread with the original one here, so that folks here just logging on or catching up will know what it was all about. :)

buggyracer
16-Feb-07, 23:07
i know for a fact one of the lads who confessed to his parents was marched down to the police station to confess to them, by his parents.