National Lottery

[DarkAngel]

I know the national lottery gives some of its funds to Charities..But i think the money could be alot better spent..I Mean they seem to always rebuild old derelict buildings instead of trying to get roofs for the homeless, get teenagers of the streets with more youth clubs etc, Givng more to hospitals and disabled kids, cancer research (one of lifes biggest killers) etc! does anyoneelse feel that the money could be better spent???

The government also said it was increasing funding for school dinners, they should have paid for it out of their own budgets, not dipping into the lottery fund at the expense of other good causes.

Giving up on buying lottery now...Never win anyway and government seem to class it was their own cash anyway! :roll:

[Alice in Blunderland]

I stopped buying a lottery ticket when it was given to, then taken away from Richard Branson. I just thought something odd was going on and decided to give money to charity through donations as I never won anything more than ten pound and was never likely to anyway. :~(

[DarkAngel]

What pee's me off the most is that the Government is relying on the Lottery to fund and pay for things that they should be sorting out and funding. We refer to the national lottery as an idiot tax, and that's about right!

[jay]

I know the national lottery gives some of its funds to Charities..But i think the money could be alot better spent..I Mean they seem to always rebuild old derelict buildings instead of trying to get roofs for the homeless, get teenagers of the streets with more youth clubs etc, Givng more to hospitals and disabled kids, cancer research (one of lifes biggest killers) etc! does anyoneelse feel that the money could be better spent???

The government also said it was increasing funding for school dinners, they should have paid for it out of their own budgets, not dipping into the lottery fund at the expense of other good causes.

Giving up on buying lottery now...Never win anyway and government seem to class it was their own cash anyway! :roll:

I disagree - the lottery money is supposed to help good causes etc not hospitals, schools and other state funded organisations - that's what we pay taxes for, likewise I think it's ridiculous that the government feel that they can use lottery funding to pay for their overspend on the London olympics - time to stop buying tickets me thinks

[DarkAngel]

I can see that side aswell Jay..Ive stopped buying a lotto ticket as im fed up with the government using the money as their own..Plus i never even win a Tenner!!! lol:lol:

[Bill Fernie]

The Lottery is huge voluntary tax

Basically you volunteer to pay it and according to the figures from the lottery people 28p goes to good causes -
See http://www.lotterygoodcauses.org.uk/funding/journey.html

If you really want to help a charity give them the pound directly and they then get 100p.

The chances of winning the lottery are incredibly small and most people never will. A better bet is to save up £100 and buy a premium bond evey year or so.

The national lottery is gambling on vast scale and as we are seeing the government is sliding down the slippery slope as we now have super casinos and other smaller casinos coming at us.

Whilst an odd flutter on something raffle ticker, grand national will probably not harm anyone many people are caught up with gambling addictions and have lost a lot.

There are a lot of areas of life that the lottery will not fund - mainly where the council has a responsibility to provide a service.

Will people continue to buy lottery tickets if huge amounts are to go on the Olympics. Many will as i am sure where the oney goes is not the reason they buy tickets. Its about winning a million.

[peedie wifie]

I never manage to pick any of the numbers that come up......so if you want to know which numbers NOT to pick I could give you a list and maybe improve the odds in your favour!

[DarkAngel]

I never manage to pick any of the numbers that come up......so if you want to know which numbers NOT to pick I could give you a list and maybe improve the odds in your favour!


Me also..Could swap number then we would have a higher chance of winning [lol]

Giving up buying lotto now as money is wasted on rubbish in my eyes.

Here an Example- £128M, £86M and £35M granted to the national opera house over a 6-year period.:eek: Eliteist past-time, absolute disgrace that amount of money is wasted on such things. Average ticket price is £125, hardly benefiting the common good!!!

[North Rhins]

Me also..Could swap number then we would have a higher chance of winning [lol]

Giving up buying lotto now as money is wasted on rubbish in my eyes.

Here an Example- £128M, £86M and £35M granted to the national opera house over a 6-year period.:eek: Eliteist past-time, absolute disgrace that amount of money is wasted on such things. Average ticket price is £125, hardly benefiting the common good!!!
I think you’re being a bit cynical aren’t you. I mean the Royal Opera, darling, brings a huge amount of pleasure to a tiny minority of people. I mean to say lovey, what would you rather they spend the money on, hospitals, cancer research, education? I really do think that if the poor people can’t afford these things then they will just have to learn to do without. I must dash. the second act is about to start! Bye sweetie.
By the way, it’s not just the cost of the theatre tickets to consider, there’s also a taxi each way, the seven course supper afterwards and then there’s the cost of a childminder for Lavonia and Tarquin, the rates down here in London are outrageous, You don’t how lucky you are living up there in the sticks darling.

[rfr10]

Ohh we get our money from the National Lottery for the Big Lottery Fund.. I don't think there is anything wrong with it as the money is used to help benefit everyone in communities.

[Bobinovich]

Have to agree that it's a waste of money - every week we see the drawn numbers, sit back and congratulate ourselves on saving another pound! I'd prefer to put my money in a local charity tin.

However I do have one reservation about charities. Why are there so many doing the same thing? Surely the donations they receive would be much better spent if those with similar goals joined together.

For instance, you could have one for overseas aid, one covering all cancers, etc. Many would require sub-branches within (i.e. cancer would have one for research into cure(s) and one for care of patients & families) but a lot of the duplication of admin, resources, etc. would be removed.

Obviously I've not looked too deep into it but it's just something I've often thought. I'm sure someone will tell me why there has to be X different groups providing the same service (for want of a better word).

[johno]

yea, i think at one stage they even made a huge donation to the opera
now, how many of us ordinary folks go to that. reckon it could be better spent on hospitals. policing,and something for the youth of today ,a place where they could meet up and get some sort of interest going instead of hanging around the streets,

[DarkAngel]

I think you’re being a bit cynical aren’t you. I mean the Royal Opera, darling, brings a huge amount of pleasure to a tiny minority of people. I mean to say lovey, what would you rather they spend the money on, hospitals, cancer research, education? I really do think that if the poor people can’t afford these things then they will just have to learn to do without. I must dash. the second act is about to start! Bye sweetie.
By the way, it’s not just the cost of the theatre tickets to consider, there’s also a taxi each way, the seven course supper afterwards and then there’s the cost of a childminder for Lavonia and Tarquin, the rates down here in London are outrageous, You don’t how lucky you are living up there in the sticks darling.

Oooo Very posh Dear!!
But Yes i would rather they spent some money on something half decent..Hospitals being a main one, Education another aswell, So many charities rely on money donated by the public and there are millions of pounds from the Lottery going to waste as i see it.

[rfr10]

We could say the same about all money.. Lottery, Competitions, do we really need half the TV Programes on TV? Could the money for making new programs especially the ones using millions of pounds be given to charities instead..Why can't all the rich people give their money to charities because surley they don't need it all. I'm sure many people and companies have extra money that they really don't need. The Lottery is one of them. All the money from the lottery can't be spent on hospitals etc, and that's the same for all grant making organisations. I'm sure that the Big Lottery Fund even get some of their money from charitable organisations. I don't think the money is wasted at all. I think that the money is used to benefit millions of people.. Also, the Young People's Fund funds projects to help young people take part in health promoting activities and to let them enjoy life as well as the main fund which is used to make the community a better place for people to live in. Money is needed for everything, yes certainly give some of it to cancer charities, hospitals etc, which already does happen but money is needed for other things too.

Can you also tell me what the money is being spent on that you disagree about please.

[Bobinovich]

OK lets start with the massive £1.5 billion (http://www.lotterygoodcauses.org.uk/) of National Lottery funding going towards the 2012 Olympics? How does that benefit the general public of this country?

What about £15 million (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/892577.stm) for a National Centre for Pop Music in Sheffield, closed less than a year later.

or, from the same BBC report, the following controversial awards...

£399m for the Millennium Dome, plus top-ups of £60m and £29m
£78.5m towards the extension of the Royal Opera House
£12.5m for the state to buy Winston Churchill's papers
£17,500 for the fashion designer Vivienne Westwood to do up her home

That's just the first ones which came up in a Google search - I'm sure there's plenty more. I personally don't feel that any of these offer good value for money to the general public, who are after all the ones funding them!

[rfr10]

OK lets start with the massive £1.5 billion (http://www.lotterygoodcauses.org.uk/) of National Lottery funding going towards the 2012 Olympics? How does that benefit the general public of this country?

What about £15 million (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/892577.stm) for a National Centre for Pop Music in Sheffield, closed less than a year later.

or, from the same BBC report, the following controversial awards...

£399m for the Millennium Dome, plus top-ups of £60m and £29m
£78.5m towards the extension of the Royal Opera House
£12.5m for the state to buy Winston Churchill's papers
£17,500 for the fashion designer Vivienne Westwood to do up her home

That's just the first ones which came up in a Google search - I'm sure there's plenty more. I personally don't feel that any of these offer good value for money to the general public, who are after all the ones funding them!


Ok fair enough.. But a lot of the money does go to good causes and I don't think there is anything wrong with the money going towards youth cafes as stated in the 1st post.

[Bobinovich]

I am sure there are many WORTHY causes at local levels which get Lottery funding - it's just the large awards you hear about which make you think 'what a waste - that amount could have helped so many small groups'.

The same can be said of our LEC's - they've been guilty of throwing (lots of) good money at bad over the years yet many small businesses end up going to the wall through lack of support from them.

I also think that the rules for funding these awards are too strict. When I was secretary of one of the local Scout groups we were desperate to get new premises. I attended a Scouting Organisation run National Lottery Funding Course down near Edingburgh. We put in an application but, because we had very little funds of our own, we had no chance.

[rfr10]

We don't really have RULES for funding.. Just certain guidelines which will help to ensure that projects are funded are worth funding and are actually going to have some benefit to people.. Well, that's with the Young People's Fund anyway. I don't really think they are too strict either. Maybe with the main fund they are.

What rules/ guidelines do you think are strict?

[marylund2323]

id like to say that youth clubs is not the way forward to gettin teenagers off the street. it wud be- if the youth clubs allowed people to drink cider on site and randomly trash things. that is all.

[rfr10]

id like to say that youth clubs is not the way forward to gettin teenagers off the street. it wud be- if the youth clubs allowed people to drink cider on site and randomly trash things. that is all.


What do you suggest then because any ideas will be gratefully appreciated.

[DarkAngel]

Did anyone win anything tonite on the Big Lotto Roll-over!?

[wi46]

I was reading an article recently and it said the only sure way you know that you are really giving to charity is to buy Lotto tickets from Camelot, I know they only 28 pence per pound but that is very generous compared to other charities? but only 5% of charities get throught the vetting process due to admin costs etc.

Cancer research changed their name from imperial cancer fund and cost £8 Million to change all the logos and paperwork etc and how many people paid with good faith into that charity?

Have a look at the appointments pages of Sunday Times and see what the charity directors are getting paid and you will soon rethink and buy Lotto tickets.

One other thing as mentioned earlier in the thread Bransons tendor was thrown out due to dodgy Lottery machines which were used in USA and Australia,