Banned from utube

[piratelassie]

The bitter together mob apparently banned this video from utube.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xybuyx_top-10-unionist-myths-debunked_news

[Phill]

Been removed from there too, it's a conspiracy! Or it's breaking ToS, would you care to explain what the film is about?

[John Little]

Better Together control "Utube" ?

Wow - that's some clout!

[Alrock]

Better Together control "Utube" ?

Wow - that's some clout!

It's actually quite easy to have something removed from pootube...
You just file a DMCA Takedown notice & the video disappears, it's then up to the uploader to prove their innocence before it gets reinstated....
Typical case of Guilty until proven Innocent.

[RecQuery]

The glib attempts at comment by people who can't reply properly reply to something so egregious aside: Freedom of speech No campaign style. Bitter Together have put in a copyright claim to remove the 'Top 10 Unionist Myths - Debunked' video from YouTube. It would seem that they can't handle the truth.

See for yourself - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV_8eyvqX2A

The sort of people who put in such copyright claims are usually over reaching media companies or oppressive regimes.

[squidge]

You can still see the video on the Yes to an Independent Scotland facebook page if you want to watch it. Also the Better Together campaign confirmed on Twitter that they HAD asked for its removal. A few months ago the campaign used the BBC logo on a leaflet and were asked by the BBC to remove it. They then posted that "Nationalist Pressure" had made the BBC complain and accused them of pettiness and censorship. I asked how they knew it was Nationalist Pressure, they deleted my comment and banned me from posting.

[RecQuery]

Well considering Better Together put out videos like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPfoDvK15Go 'Vote NO to Independence because of wee dogs and sausage rolls?!?' No wonder they want videos removed. They've also put in crappy copyright attempts for the following mirrors:

http://www.frequency.com/video/top-10-unionist-myths-debunked/85002010/-/5-6950529
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xybuyx_top-10-unionist-myths-debunked_news#.UUjuW-56kSn

I think this may be a working version - albeit slightly lower quality due to the person uploading it not having the original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZfvnUeU-0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZfvnUeU-0)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQZfvnUeU-0

[Phill]

The glib attempts at comment by people who can't reply properly reply to something so egregious aside: Freedom of speech No campaign style. Bitter Together have put in a copyright claim to remove the 'Top 10 Unionist Myths - Debunked' video from YouTube. It would seem that they can't handle the truth.

What seems to erode all faith in either sides argument is this descent into name calling.
The truth would be good, from both sides of the argument. But when the 'truth' is delivered with bile & hate it does remove any validity it may have.

[squidge]

The video is z tongue in cheek wee film and there is no sense of bile or hate within it.

[Phill]

[sighs]That's not what I said.
It's the words used around which these links are delivered.

When trying to take on different views, or aspects of all sides of the argument they way it is delivered matters to me as much as the content, as I find it gives a good indicator as to the validity of such content.

I am actively going out to find points of view, arguments, positions, information and 'evidence' on Scottish independence so have gotten used to cutting through the chaff, however the thing that concerns me is there are a great many having these points delivered to them in a very twisted manner.

[John Little]

It's actually quite easy to have something removed from pootube...
You just file a DMCA Takedown notice & the video disappears, it's then up to the uploader to prove their innocence before it gets reinstated....
Typical case of Guilty until proven Innocent.

Thanks Alrock. That's useful information and new to me.:)

[squidge]

[sighs]That's not what I said.It's the words used around which these links are delivered.When trying to take on different views, or aspects of all sides of the argument they way it is delivered matters to me as much as the content, as I find it gives a good indicator as to the validity of such content.I am actively going out to find points of view, arguments, positions, information and 'evidence' on Scottish independence so have gotten used to cutting through the chaff, however the thing that concerns me is there are a great many having these points delivered to them in a very twisted manner.Sorry Phil, i thought you were talking about the video. Maybe we should list some useful sites, however I would suggest that the sites, or the pages can all be good. The comments are the bits to avoid!!!!

[RecQuery]

There's an alternative mirror/slightly better version at http://vimeo.com/62217976 also.