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trinkie
01-Jun-12, 07:49
With all this talk and excitement about The Queen, I've just remembered a snippet which I thought interesting at the time.
It was during the War in Wick, I was a little girl and lodging with us was a young RAF man from England . He was not a Pilot or anything as exciting, indeed in my humble opinion I thought he was much greater than that - he was a Tailor making uniforms up near the Barrogill Hall.
I was so impressed especially when he told me it was he who had measured the two young Princesses for their Uniforms ! He was so proud
and I have never forgotten .

Another memory -

Much later on Coronation Day my father treated us all to high tea at the Dolphin Restaurant. Some of us had poached eggs and there
was a plate of fancies to mark the occasion.

What do you remember?

John Little
01-Jun-12, 10:04
Though I was alive I was too young to remember the coronation.

But I do know where I was on 17 October 1956

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/17/newsid_3147000/3147145.stm


On a crossroads a few miles from Workington where the police had sealed off the road and a crowd had gathered at the crossroads.

The Queen and His Nibs swept past in a large maroon car- and did not even wave!

Because I was so small I did not appreciate what I found when I saw her as an adult- I could never have imagined that she is so small!

The incarnation of the British state, the embodiment of British sovereignty is absolutely tiny.

golach
01-Jun-12, 10:24
On the day of the Coronation, I was living in a small village in Perthshire, Inchture,on the Perth - Dundee road. Only one person had a television,the Postmaster, I can vaguely remember he invited all us kids to see the crowning ceremony, there must have been a dozen kids in his living room.

Kodiak
01-Jun-12, 10:27
I remember the Coronation and shortly after the Queen visited Dundee. I was living in Dundee at the time and my parents took me down to Albert Square which was part of the procession route. The crowds were lining the streets and were at least three deep so my Dad carried me on his shoulders so I could see the qeen as she passed by.

I remember the Queen passing along the street in her car being driven very slowly, she was smiling and to me she looked radiant It was pouring down with rain and had been all day. This did not stop us having a great time and I will never forget that day.

I stll have at least one photograph of me standing in the crowds with a Union Flag in my hand and wearing a very wet rain coat and hat, but I smiling and happy as I was having fun. Great Day !

Beat Bug
01-Jun-12, 12:10
I was living in Dublin at the time of the coronation. My aunt, who was living in London, bought all her nieces and nephews a coronation mug. It was my pride and joy at the time, although I didn't really know what it was all about!

Hoida
01-Jun-12, 18:03
I remember going with my mum,aunts and cousins to a friend who had a Tv to watch the coronation. The children all had party food in the front garden while the adults had food inside. It was a glorious hot day, there must have been about 20 of us there and the telly was so small. Alas most of these people are no longer with us. Only myself and a cousin slightly younger. Money was scarce but memories of that day have stayed with me.

David Banks
02-Jun-12, 01:48
I remember the day being celebrated at Crossroads primary school with gifts for each pupil.

If I remember correctly, we each received a mug (with a picture of the queen) and a small can of cocoa.

Thankfully, I was left handed.

RecQuery
03-Jun-12, 13:10
I remember the day being celebrated at Crossroads primary school with gifts for each pupil.

If I remember correctly, we each received a mug (with a picture of the queen) and a small can of cocoa.

Thankfully, I was left handed.

I remember reading about that, didn't it severely impact the countries reserves of cheap-tat-no-one-cards-about took us years to recover.

David Banks
04-Jun-12, 18:01
and . . . our school photograph from 1953 Crossroads came in a "special" coronation souvenir cover (see the org's Schooldays).

Has anyone read "Never Cry Wolf" by Farley Mowat (whose ancestors were from Canisby) ? One of the many scenes was when he camped his tent near the regular morning return route of his study wolf family. He drank several mugs of tea and "marked" off what he wanted to claim for his territory. When the wolves returned along their routine path the next morning, they stopped immediately on reaching a "marker" of Mowat's claimed territory. They looked puzzled for a few moments, then proceeded to remark (with much more efficient use of their "resources") their territory.

When I recognise the incessant territory marking from the royals, I am reminded (much more favourably) of Farley Mowat's wolves.

golach
04-Jun-12, 23:06
Feel sorry for HRH, with her hubby in hospital and missing the rest of the jubilee festivities

Corrie 3
05-Jun-12, 09:27
Feel sorry for HRH, with her hubby in hospital and missing the rest of the jubilee festivities
I'm sure she will be glad to get rid of him from under her feet for a few days !!!

C3.............;)

trinkie
05-Jun-12, 13:21
Yes Golach, I'm sure she will miss him by her side. She must be concerned about his health at his ripe old age !
I felt sorry for them out by the river on such a cold wet day, but they seemed to cope and never sat down .
You have to take your hat off to them !
Trinkie

sids
05-Jun-12, 13:24
You have to take your hat off to them !


And bow down.

Alrock
05-Jun-12, 13:25
I felt sorry for them out by the river on such a cold wet day.

I don't, I'm sure that they where kept quite comfortable & well cared for....
This is who I feel sorry for...
http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?179328

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2008/021/0/4/devil_angry_by_Scotsgirl_606.gif
(http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?179328)

equusdriving
05-Jun-12, 13:47
I don't, I'm sure that they where kept quite comfortable & well cared for....
This is who I feel sorry for...
http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?179328

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2008/021/0/4/devil_angry_by_Scotsgirl_606.gif
(http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?179328)


Yes shock horror people forced to join everyone else and have to work for what they get how terrible!! I bet it really interfered with their sitting and whining on the internet (paid for by the Taxpayers) about having to carry the massive chip on their shoulders!!

Alrock
05-Jun-12, 14:47
Yes shock horror people forced to join everyone else and have to work for what they get how terrible!! I bet it really interfered with their sitting and whining on the internet (paid for by the Taxpayers) about having to carry the massive chip on their shoulders!!

Same reply as the other thread....

If there is work to be done then give them a job with a proper wage, don't just treat them as a form of slave labour.
£12,000,000 to stage this event!!!!!
Surely they could have afforded to pay them an a appropriate wage for the job without hardly denting that budget!

golach
05-Jun-12, 15:19
HM did not look too happy today, and no wonder, her OH in hospital, and 4 days of partying must take its toll. Well done Ma'am.

benji
05-Jun-12, 16:22
Golach sorry for correcting you but this has, over the past week (thanks to BBC coverage), become a pet hate. Prior to her coronation Princess Elizabeth was an HRH but after the coronation became HM. The Queen (or King) is always known as HM and never as HRH. I really wish that if the BBC were going to have commentary on everything to do with the Jubilee they would get these things right. As Lt Cmdr George Ericson in the Cruel Sea would say “its not important but you may as well get it correct”.

Corrie 3
05-Jun-12, 16:40
HRH did not look too happy today, and no wonder, her OH in hospital, and 4 days of partying must take its toll. Well done Ma'am.
I am sure Ma'am will be ok Glolach, it's not like she has to go home and start on the chores, get the washing up done, cook the families meals, see to the laundry and get the kids into bed is it? And it's not like it's hard partying is it? She only has to stand there, sit there, wave and smile.

C3...................:roll:;)

porshiepoo
05-Jun-12, 16:50
I wasn't born during the coronation.
However I do remember the Queens Silver Jubilee. I was 7 years old and I think we were still living on a RAF camp - so it would have been Linton or Lyneham - and I remember snippets of the street party. I particularly remember there was a pig that the kids could try to catch and I remember my brother having a go!
Still got the jubilee cup around somewhere!

catran
05-Jun-12, 21:23
Yes but to stand there, smile and wave must be tiring and soul destroying. A friend has suggested Prince Philip was a wise old man and opted out of that horrendous concert by going to hospital for peace and quiet.
Hopefully, he is OK.

How come there were hardly any Scottish singers such as the Alexander Bros, the Proclaimers Ect?????? at the concert.Where was Alex Salmond? Does he sing??????

RecQuery
06-Jun-12, 08:24
Interesting article - The BBC's Queen's jubilee propaganda failed in Scotland(http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/05/bbc-jubilee-propagandising-failed-scotland) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/05/bbc-jubilee-propagandising-failed-scotland)

pmcd
06-Jun-12, 09:48
Ah, that'll be the Guardian, then, home of bitter souls, lost causes, envy, bile, and an inabbilliter to spel properly. The only daily paper with a daily chip on its shoulder. Mind you, if it's true, it bodes well. Independence is assured, and the remainder (majority) of the Union will vote Tory in perpetuity. Then when the Buffoon of Brigadoon wants to negotiate terms with a copper-bottomed Tory True Blue government, he might find that terms and conditions apply. Watch out, Caledonia - don't you DARE talk down your/our Queen!

RecQuery
06-Jun-12, 11:07
Ah, that'll be the Guardian, then, home of bitter souls, lost causes, envy, bile, and an inabbilliter to spel properly. The only daily paper with a daily chip on its shoulder. Mind you, if it's true, it bodes well. Independence is assured, and the remainder (majority) of the Union will vote Tory in perpetuity. Then when the Buffoon of Brigadoon wants to negotiate terms with a copper-bottomed Tory True Blue government, he might find that terms and conditions apply. Watch out, Caledonia - don't you DARE talk down your/our Queen!

And you say the Guardian is full of bitterness and bile.

I can think of other papers with chips on their shoulders by the way.

pmcd
06-Jun-12, 11:35
So can I , Requiem, but this time it was the Guardian which caused the outrage! Also, one could understand the chips on the shoulders of the red-tops, but the Grauniad purports to be a newspaper of record. It is also often mischievous and adolescent in its editorial stance, and insists on pretending to be vaguely socialist, but without the messy or dirty bits. Very middle class, very Islington, and unbelievably smug. On top of that, selling fewer and fewer copies, it tends to howl into the idle wind which regards it not, apart from its diminishing club of nostalgic rose-tinted social bystanders.....

John Little
06-Jun-12, 12:04
Yes but to stand there, smile and wave must be tiring and soul destroying. A friend has suggested Prince Philip was a wise old man and opted out of that horrendous concert by going to hospital for peace and quiet.
Hopefully, he is OK.

How come there were hardly any Scottish singers such as the Alexander Bros, the Proclaimers Ect?????? at the concert.Where was Alex Salmond? Does he sing??????

Aye true - considering that 'er Maj is half Scottish by descent you might have expected a tad more from her Hibernian realm....

secrets in symmetry
06-Jun-12, 12:17
Interesting article - The BBC's Queen's jubilee propaganda failed in Scotland(http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/05/bbc-jubilee-propagandising-failed-scotland) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/05/bbc-jubilee-propagandising-failed-scotland)Why interesting? It's the usual trendy socialist/nationalist waffle from Mike Small - who is perhaps the most boring and irritating person I have ever met!

He's not a Guardian journalist, he's an occasional columnist.

secrets in symmetry
06-Jun-12, 12:19
And you say the Guardian is full of bitterness and bile.

I can think of other papers with chips on their shoulders by the way.Yes indeed, like the Wail, the Sexpress, the Record, the Sun, ....

David Banks
06-Jun-12, 17:54
So can I , Requiem, but this time it was the Guardian which caused the outrage! Also, one could understand the chips on the shoulders of the red-tops, but the Grauniad purports to be a newspaper of record. It is also often mischievous and adolescent in its editorial stance, and insists on pretending to be vaguely socialist, but without the messy or dirty bits. Very middle class, very Islington, and unbelievably smug. On top of that, selling fewer and fewer copies, it tends to howl into the idle wind which regards it not, apart from its diminishing club of nostalgic rose-tinted social bystanders.....

In my opinion, dismissive name calling is no help - particularly to those of us who have been away for a long while.

Was the reported number of street parties in Scotland versus England/Wales anywhere close to the truth ?

If it was, then is it not reasonable to make some deductions ?

If the "facts" were incorrect, then please say so.

John Little
06-Jun-12, 18:04
I do not think that conclusions may be drawn from these 'facts'.

Street parties have never, to my knowledge at any rate, though I may be corrected, been a part of Scottish culture -borne out by this site. Something to do with vagaries of weather perhaps?

http://www.streetparty.org.uk/history.aspx


As to there being "only 60" - I am surprised there were that many.

And of course there is no data on attendance - it might be that the Scots have bigger parties. There were about 100 at my village in Somerset.

ducati
06-Jun-12, 20:44
I don't live on a street :eek:


Apparently, Eck is suggesting we don't wave Union Jags (see what I did there?) when the Queen visits next month but Lion Rampants instead. What is he on?

RecQuery
07-Jun-12, 10:08
It occurs to me that media coverage of the Jubilee in the UK has been very North Korean and I find the comparison quite amusing. Makes stomaching it a lot easier.

Here's a map illustrating the density of street parties by local authority district in England and Wales (https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?viz=MAP&q=select+col0%3E%3E1+from+1DJAefNAmq0KmLM8_F4DDfzn CLC1HVzffu5Z1UKM&h=false&lat=51.308149327637025&lng=-0.8076927075024969&z=7&t=1&l=col0%3E%3E1&y=1&tmplt=1) and here is another map based on the same data (https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?viz=MAP&q=select+col1+from+1qYiAt9ja6Vt0Olym4sibzFZK-IYMU7Awc3NieAo&h=false&lat=52.13245386663858&lng=-0.3251333334875417&z=7&t=1&l=col1&y=1&tmplt=-1).

What you see, by and large, under the media wail - yes, wail not wall that's intentional - of support and propoganda, is that the Jubilee was a high favourability-low salience event, getting lower on both counts as you move out of the Home Counties. But then again well all knew that already really.

Humerous Vegetable
07-Jun-12, 10:51
No. I reckon we should be waving our gas and electric bills at the person who apparently owns the sea bed on which many of the rigs and offshore wind farms stand. Crown estates should belong to the citizens of the country, not the overpriviledged descendants of a German squire.

ducati
07-Jun-12, 11:17
No. I reckon we should be waving our gas and electric bills at the person who apparently owns the sea bed on which many of the rigs and offshore wind farms stand. Crown estates should belong to the citizens of the country, not the overpriviledged descendants of a German squire.

But I've already ordered 60,000 Union Flacks. :mad:

RecQuery
07-Jun-12, 11:45
But I've already ordered 60,000 Union Flacks. :mad:

Nice order for a Chinese company then.