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Corrie 3
25-Feb-12, 10:42
700 cans picked up in 3weeks? ..........35 half bottles of vodka picked up plus other bottles?.... This is disgusting and the people of Castletown need to have a long hard look at themselves very closely!!
Have they no pride in where they live? ......Is it against their religion to put rubbish into bins?
Get a grip and sort out your place of abode unless you like living with all that rubbish of course!!

http://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/News/OVER-700-cans-picked-up-in-Castletown-in-three-weeks-24022012.htm

C3............:eek:[disgust]

sids
25-Feb-12, 10:45
Not all the fault of the locals. Castletown is where I throw it out of my car, usually.

Anyway, these bottles and cans must indicate that there's a bit of socialising going on.

focusRS
25-Feb-12, 11:18
I agree it is a disgrace but the vast majority of offenders are people who are not wanted in other areas of Caithness and have been placed here.
There are very few of us left that have pride in where we live.

EDDIE
25-Feb-12, 11:46
700 cans picked up in 3weeks? ..........35 half bottles of vodka picked up plus other bottles?.... This is disgusting and the people of Castletown need to have a long hard look at themselves very closely!!
Have they no pride in where they live? ......Is it against their religion to put rubbish into bins?
Get a grip and sort out your place of abode unless you like living with all that rubbish of course!!

http://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/News/OVER-700-cans-picked-up-in-Castletown-in-three-weeks-24022012.htm

C3............:eek:[disgust]
You have to look at the bigger picture alcohol is far to cheap and is easily affordable to buy in bulk anytime and the government needs to tackle this problem the same way as the made smoking antisocial and banned in public places and the quicker they do that the better of everyone will be

squidge
25-Feb-12, 11:49
I agree it is a disgrace but the vast majority of offenders are incomers.There are very few of us left that have pride in where we live.God help us all - incomers!! Didnt we just have discussion on another thread about inclusion! Im not surprised people arent taking pride in Where they live if thats the attitude that they face. If you are proud of your village then get off yourbacksides and encourage others to feel like its the sort of place they want to be proud of too. Lots of work can be done with Schools and youth groups to work hard to "keep castletown tidy". Its a collective responsibility and to dismiss it as the fault of one part of the village is daft

equusdriving
25-Feb-12, 11:55
I agree it is a disgrace but the vast majority of offenders are incomers.
There are very few of us left that have pride in where we live.

and your proof of this comes from where? it sounds like you must of witnessed numerous incidents of littering by "incomers" was they clearly marked as such, or do you have a way of telling where they are from, have you approached/reported the said "incomers" about this as you obviously have a lot of pride in where you live and I presume with so much pride you pick up litter when you see it and don't just make a sweeping statement about who is responsible? also with the vodka bottles I would presume that they would be most likely to be used and discarded at night so I would also presume this would make it very hard to see who and where the culprits are from!!

davem
25-Feb-12, 11:57
The relevent point is that all these cans and bottles have been picked up, on the initiative of Castletown people. I am sure there are other areas where they remain where they were left. However please don't let that small point prevent any posters doing their level best to blame and harangue any one else they might feel superior to!

focusRS
25-Feb-12, 11:58
I said it as it is fact i am afraid squidge, ive been seeing it for a while now and could name them. When i am out a walk with my daughter i take a bag with us and pick up as much as will fit into the bag. At a guess i would say alcohol containers make around 80-85% of the litter. The litter around the Cemetery annoys me the most.

equusdriving
25-Feb-12, 12:09
I said it as it is fact i am afraid squidge, ive been seeing it for a while now and could name them. When i am out a walk with my daughter i take a bag with us and pick up as much as will fit into the bag. At a guess i would say alcohol containers make around 80-85% of the litter. The litter around the Cemetery annoys me the most.

So are the ones you don't actually witness yourself labelled with a "thrown by incomer label" then

focusRS
25-Feb-12, 12:13
There are no street lights around the areas where the litter is being dropped, people are not going to be staggering around drunk in the pitch dark and littering, have some sense. I have seen it happen, my wife and i have approached people about the litter and dog mess issue and most offenders pick it up and are generally sorry if only for being caught. My wife once confronted a dog messer and waited for the offender to go to the shop and get a polly bag to pick it up.

equusdriving
25-Feb-12, 12:19
There are no street lights around the areas where the litter is being dropped, people are not going to be staggering around drunk in the pitch dark and littering, have some sense. I have seen it happen, my wife and i have approached people about the litter and dog mess issue and most offenders pick it up and are generally sorry if only for being caught. My wife once confronted a dog messer and waited for the offender to go to the shop and get a polly bag to pick it up.

you seem to be avoiding the "incomer" issue, can you give us some tips on how to tell the difference between local litter and "incomer" litter and as you know who is responsible, why not use your anonymity and name and shame them on here?

Torvaig
25-Feb-12, 12:26
As has been said, it is not only SOME residents who don't care a fig about their surroundings but many of the people visiting or just passing through and this is true of all our places blighted with the signs of the Neanderthals that still roam our coutryside and towns and villages.

Look at any town or in the countryside and you will find the remains of substances needed to keep our sad, small brained human animals in what they call a state of happiness. It is not only those who drink; it is people from all walks of life who don't use the capacities of the matter inside their skulls to learn to live in a civilised manner.

There are still many specimens of the human race who don't think an ordinary, sensible and necessary part of their lives is to nurture our surroundings, be it in our homes, neighbourhoods or towns. Sadly those specimens don't care and never will. They think it is up to the rest of us to clean up after them, endure their filth and mess so that they can get on with their useless, lazy and unproductive way of life.

And no, I'm not only talking about the low life who inhabit our streets daily and at weekends having fully imbibed of the treasures on sale to them to make their lives even more miserable and, generously, ours as well but also those who think they are perfectly acceptable citizens and who throw their paper rubbish and cans from car windows, on the streets and in our gardens and set out their bins with lids bulging open and the contents blown into gardens etc., before the bin lorry gets to them.

Until there are people employed by those who collect our taxes to steward our environment effectively with on the spot fines or written notices with a stern warning regarding their offences and their names and addresses added to a record which is then followed up each and published every month.

Those found to be serial offenders then be made to do community service, clean up river banks etc.,

I believe this already happen but it really does need to be applied more robustly and no soft treatment for anyone.

We all have to be respnsible and bring up our families to be much more mindful of their surroundings and maybe some day we will all respect our neighbourhoods.

focusRS
25-Feb-12, 12:28
As i would be removed from the site. I have lived all my life in Castletown bar a wee spell in Aberdeen and it is the sort of place where everyone knows everyone.
I am not alone in the dislike of our litter bugs and we all discuss what we have all seen and its always the same names that pop up. It is not an anti-incomer rant it is but a collection of truths from a large group of proud Castletown people. My wife by the way is an incomer.

Torvaig
25-Feb-12, 12:33
P.S. Can't believe incomers are being blamed by some for the rubbish that surrounds us! All walks of life are responsible no matter where they come from!

equusdriving
25-Feb-12, 12:40
As i would be removed from the site. I have lived all my life in Castletown bar a wee spell in Aberdeen and it is the sort of place where everyone knows everyone.
I am not alone in the dislike of our litter bugs and we all discuss what we have all seen and its always the same names that pop up. It is not an anti-incomer rant it is but a collection of truths from a large group of proud Castletown people. My wife by the way is an incomer.

So do the large group of proud Castletown people who have elected you spokesperson also put the blame on "incomers" Is your wife a litterbug then or have you domesticated her :D I hate litterbugs as much as anyone and would happily have them shot, but that goes for all litterbugs blacks, whites, browns, yellows, locals and incomers

squidge
25-Feb-12, 12:42
I wasnt kidding when I said that there is a lot of work which can be done by schools and youth groups to promote tidy behaviour. HAve you ever dropped something on the floow to be told by a child - Mummy!!!! there is a litter bin over there - you dont drop litter even unintentionally. Teach a child not to litter and it will stay with them. If the litter is beer cans and the like then unless Castletown has more than its share of itnerant alcoholics passing through it is likely to be teenagers. In which case lobby for some lighting - boozy teens dont like bright lights, Have a village meeting and welcome the "incomers" to try to think about ways to tackle the issue; arrange patrols of people to go and see whats really going on and you will likely find that they are kids that many of you know and you know their parents and can do that "I know your mother" and then report back; Go see the local shops and see if cant find out where the kids are getting their booze from and if necessary get the police involved and ask them to do something to prevent booze being sold to underagers.

Organise a project for the kids to get involved in - Paint something BIG, build something dig something give them something that will enhance their environment and be good fun and they can get free rein with. Is there a derelict building that wouldnt mind being "graffiti-ised". Have a competition, Promote football or other sports and get kids involved.

Practical things also like more litter bins and more poo bins also help. Get the school kids involved in designing posters to discourage dog fouling or litter ( kids get great fun from doing stuff about poo)

It is Everyones responsibility and you can imporve things if you try - mutterings about incomers do nothing nothing nothing to create a community feel and encourage pride in your surroundings.

Aye its hard work - but so is picking up litter when you walk the dog that you didnt drop. Its also a thankless task sometimes but so is approaching someone who let their dog foul a pavement and then wait whilst they go get a carrier bag. Saying that it will continue until the "those who collect our taxes" do something about it shifts responsibilty - there are lots you can do and you have a an army of litter attitude changers in your primary school children. Dont underestimate them.

focusRS
25-Feb-12, 12:51
I have indeed managed to Castletownise her as much as is possible. It was not easy but with some booze and dirt the transformation was complete. By incomer im not relating to colour "blacks, whites, browns, yellows", the offenders are folk rejected from the surrounding Caithness towns and villages. There are Castletowners that commit the offence but their numbers are overshadowed by the others.

Blackbird
25-Feb-12, 13:10
.....the offenders are folk rejected from the surrounding Caithness towns and villages. There are Castletowners that commit the offence but their numbers are overshadowed by the others.

Does your stereotype include others too, like from another area of the country?? Maybe I'm not an 'incomer' then as I'm from outside Caithness but perhaps I should start throwing my litter away and leaving my dog mess on the pavement if you have such a low view of others from different places. I'm pleased to live up here as I can assure you things are much worse down south. It annoys me all the mess too but one little voice in the background will not change the habits of the uneducated minority who wouldn't care about anywhere they lived.

If you know who they are then do something about it.

Don't tar all incomers with the same brush, we're not all scum and I'm proud to live up here. (and I know what a bin is for!! ;))

focusRS
25-Feb-12, 13:18
Nope the good people from the South move here as this is where they heve chosen to live and act better than most if not all of us.
Individuals have been reported in extreme cases and nothing was done about it.

Droopy
25-Feb-12, 13:27
With some of the threads residents of Castletown start on The Org.....I reckon I know whose guilty of drinking bottles of Vodka!!!

focusRS
25-Feb-12, 13:32
Whisky........

annekernow
26-Feb-12, 17:40
We have lived in Castletown for some years now but no dought we are incomers,we try to keep our property looking nice and tidy we go out and pick up all the rubbish that ends up in our garden coke cans crisp bags etc,no vodka bottles though,we clean the path outside our house but maybe we should not be doing that as incomers

Alrock
26-Feb-12, 18:04
Pity you can't train cats to pick up rubbish, Castletown would be spotless what with the plethora of cats on every street corner... Though despite the rubbish, it must be pretty rodent free.

Rheghead
26-Feb-12, 18:20
I've made DNA swabs around the ringpull area of a random selection of beer cans in Castletown and the results came back today, 50% incomer, 50% proud Castletown Fowk.

Corrie 3
26-Feb-12, 19:31
I've made DNA swabs around the ringpull area of a random selection of beer cans in Castletown and the results came back today, 50% incomer, 50% proud Castletown Fowk.
I think it's time they forgot about their differences, got their heads together and had a "clean up Castletown day"....and have a prize for the most bottles collected. Get the kids involved and explain to them that some of that rubbish will still be there in 30 years time unless someone picks it up.
And at the same time try and find out the main offenders, take pictures, keep a diary and inform the Police and Council!!!
Take pride in where you live...."Keep Caithness Tidy" should be a phrase that everyone in the county see's, on billboards, on forums and in local papers, perhaps the Council would like to adopt it !!!
I like Castletown and will enjoy visiting even better next time when it is all cleaned up!!!
Go for it Folks!!!! Be proud of Castletown......:)

C3..................:)

John Little
26-Feb-12, 19:47
Big notice outside McColls 'Keep Castletown tidy".... ?

I like Castletown - it's a nice wee place with handy amenities.

And good beer.

Corrie 3
26-Feb-12, 20:49
Big notice outside McColls 'Keep Castletown tidy".... ?

I like Castletown - it's a nice wee place with handy amenities.

And good beer.
Good idea John....as you can see I have changed my signature to try and help with the problem!!!

C3...................:roll::eek:

Moira
26-Feb-12, 22:03
The litter problem is not unique to Castletown unfortunately. The same problems exist up & down the country, in towns, villages and every open road inbetween.

Along what I call "Tesco Trail" in Wick it's the same. The route is about a mile long from Wick St. Fergus Church out to Tescos. Bottles, cans, sandwich containers, you name it - it's all there in the name of laziness and irresponsibility to properly dispose of litter.

It amazes me too the number of half-eaten packets of cakes/biscuits/cooked meat etc. just thrown on the pavements or thrust through the railings/hedges of the houses along the route. Such waste IMO is shameful and I often wonder if the folk throwing perfectly good food away are actually paying for it or stealing it. Of course, that is a different issue.

As for dog poo, I've lost count of the number of times I've gone to pick up my dog's waste on grassy/wooded areas and have trodden on something left behind by the less scrupulous dog-owners before me.

BTW I really like Castletown too and often stop there to take a walk around the harbour area, the beach or go shopping at the butchers or the wee shop on the main street. And before anyone asks, I don't park on the Main Street. :)

2little2late
29-Feb-12, 00:34
Why don't the Highland Council just use Castletown as the next landfill? After all the place is a dump.

Moira
29-Feb-12, 00:39
Because it's not and you are trolling?

golach
29-Feb-12, 01:08
Why don't the Highland Council just use Castletown as the next landfill? After all the place is a dump.
A Weeker dares to say that? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones, "owld Caithness proverb"

badger
01-Mar-12, 20:58
A little while ago a thread on here referred to those people who park outside the PO and shop in Castletown because they can't be bothered to cross the road and someone pointed out that one phrase kept recurring "selfish and lazy".

I got so fed up with the disgusting state of one path in Castletown that I finally remembered to take some bags with me today and picked up as much as I could filling both bags before it started to rain. Much of the litter is under bushes so I'll need one of those picker things next time. There were bottles still full and removing the top off one, because I wasn't carrying it home full, the contents sprayed all over my jeans - nice [evil] . Tore one of my rubber gloves so I hope children litter picking are suitably protected. Sad thing is I hardly made any impression there was so much.

So, yes - selfish and lazy all those folk who can't be bothered taking their litter home.

btw I'm an incomer.

back of beyond
01-Mar-12, 22:39
it,s been said it,s not just castletown . well as i was haveing me lunch ee day in thurso down by ross hardware carpark 1 x boy racer turns up and after a min or so throws oot what looked like a paper bag after a pie !!!! well thought i thats not on so went over and asked him to pick it up he says its only a tissue i says i dont care he says but everyone does it i say i still dont care as if everyone did it there would be a big pile o tissue there with that he got oot o the car and picked it up !! me thinks he wasna that happy!!! about 10mins later second boy racer turns up and pulls up alongside racer 1 and after a wee natter and a lot o looks my way 2nd racer starts unraping sweets and throwing rappers oot o the window !!!!! he looked as if to say come on then!!! me thinks not worth ee bother and let it go!!! did i do the right thing ?????????? oh by the way ive got reg numbers should i put on here?????????? thoughts?????????