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ywindythesecond
09-Feb-12, 22:34
At 1.30am yesterday 8th February, the 4006MW wind generation that National grid monitors was producing an impressive 2649MW or 66% of capacity.
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Unfortunately, at that time of day we didn't need it.

At 5pm today at peak demand time, the same 4006MW was producing a miserly 147M, or 3.7% of capacity, when we could have done with 2649MW.
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We could really do with and on/off switch.
And somewhere to keep it till we need it.

Corrie 3
09-Feb-12, 22:42
Don't worry, Donnie is going to save us...................

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-16969723

C3........:eek:;)

secrets in symmetry
10-Feb-12, 01:01
Ywindy, there is no wind problem! What you perceive as a wind problem is an energy storage problem that has been known for thirty years or more.

There was an interesting story on Reporting Scotland yesterday: Glasgow solar study: 'We could put oil back in ground' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16939564)

The video on that BBC Scotland web page is worth watching. It explains the problem and an idea for a (partial/possible) solution rather well. I happened to bump into the BBC Scotland Science correspondent yesterday, so I got a first-hand report. I was impressed, he is really on the ball on so many issues in science.

ywindythesecond
10-Feb-12, 01:57
Ywindy, there is no wind problem! What you perceive as a wind problem is an energy storage problem that has been known for thirty years or more.

There was an interesting story on Reporting Scotland yesterday: Glasgow solar study: 'We could put oil back in ground' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16939564)

The video on that BBC Scotland web page is worth watching. It explains the problem and an idea for a (partial/possible) solution rather well. I happened to bump into the BBC Scotland Science correspondent yesterday, so I got a first-hand report. I was impressed, he is really on the ball on so many issues in science.

An idea for a Partial/possible solution to an energy storage problem that has been known for thirty years or more?

This is the closing paragraph of the Glasgow solar study you refer to:

"But it's not yet science fact. To perfect it will probably take tens of years and billions of pounds. The effort required is being likened to a new Apollo programme. But the Glasgow team say Scotland has the resources and the infrastructure to make it happen."

Ywindy, there is no wind problem!

AS LONG AS YOU LIVE TO BE AS OLD AS METHUSELAH!

Rheghead
10-Feb-12, 16:34
At 1.30am yesterday 8th February, the 4006MW wind generation that National grid monitors was producing an impressive 2649MW or 66% of capacity.
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Unfortunately, at that time of day we didn't need it.


Did I read that right? You say we didn't need 2649MW when system demand at that time was 42,000 MW?

RecQuery
10-Feb-12, 20:16
Presumably if we could improve battery technology we could store it there, even with current inefficient batteries it's worthwhile charging them. Though I find it hard to believe the energy wasn't in demand.

secrets in symmetry
11-Feb-12, 02:35
Ywindy seems to think that variability in wind generated electricity output is something he invented. There are relatiively influential people who actually believe him!