Giant MSP browbeats tiny windfarm campaigner!

[ywindythesecond]

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[RecQuery]

Rabble, rabble, rabble...

[Eilanboy]

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Pity he didn,t throw him into the River Ness and give us all some respite from his rantings.Great how he always seems to get himself to the front of any photo-shoot

[ywindythesecond]

Pity he didn,t throw him into the River Ness and give us all some respite from his rantings.Great how he always seems to get himself to the front of any photo-shoot
He's a big man and very pushy!

[Rheghead]

You had the cowboy guy with the dog to keep you safe.

[Neil Howie]

and he can karate chop metal railings !!!!

[ywindythesecond]

and he can karate chop metal railings !!!!
It was a close call! There was no way I could have thrown him into the Ness!

[Geomac]

Like most SNP MSPs, Rob Gibson has developed a bullying style - namely, if you don't agree with him, then he will shout ate you - louder and louder until you give in. That about sums up the SNP policy on electricity generation!!

[ducati]

Interesting take from the interview with Trump on the new Scottish programme last night. Not only does he not like windfarms near his golf course he doesnt like them anywhere. Very inefficient he says. He goes on to say he supposes they are OK in the middle of nowhere were there are few people to bother. Must be talking about Caithness :eek:

[Geomac]

Ducati
I don't "like" wind turbines either but to distinguish myself from Trump, I am an engineer with a background in power generation. Without going on too much, wind generation is a total distraction, a waste of money and truly unreliable. Hardly a basis upon which to build our electricity generation strategy.
The truly disastrous consequence of this 100% renewable policy is that Scotland's electricty is the most expensive in the Western world and inevitably industry with high electricity usage (aluminium, paper, steel etc) will emigrate and we will be left with a green fanatic's ideal of 100% generation from renewables but with no industry to power - yup, this is the economics of the asylum!!

[secrets in symmetry]

Ducati
I don't "like" wind turbines either but to distinguish myself from Trump, I am an engineer with a background in power generation. Without going on too much, wind generation is a total distraction, a waste of money and truly unreliable. Hardly a basis upon which to build our electricity generation strategy.
The truly disastrous consequence of this 100% renewable policy is that Scotland's electricty is the most expensive in the Western world and inevitably industry with high electricity usage (aluminium, paper, steel etc) will emigrate and we will be left with a green fanatic's ideal of 100% generation from renewables but with no industry to power - yup, this is the economics of the asylum!!Lol! Do we have a real expert, or perhaps a nuclear has-been with a rosy memory of the glory days of Dounreay, or are you just another run of the mill tilting malecowwasteoutputter?

[Geomac]

Lol! Do we have a real expert, or perhaps a nuclear has-been with a rosy memory of the glory days of Dounreay, or are you just another run of the mill tilting malecowwasteoutputter?
Symmetry - I can tell from your response that you are an even more real expert - or is it just that you are an SNP bully yourself. Instead of entering the debate on intellectual or rational terms, you prefer to name call someone who may have a point/opinion. Yup - you seem to be a member of the Rob Gibson school of debate - the shout and harass school of debate. SAD!!

[secrets in symmetry]

Hmm, a reply with no content whatsoever - a pretty hypocritical response following your initial content-free post. Come on, show us you're not a producer of cow waste.

[RecQuery]

I'm somewhat of a climate skeptic, or rather my view is that humanity has a low to negligible impact given the current evidence. That being said I in favour of green and renewable energy; I'm in favour of all R&D and I like the idea of being able to generate my own power. It's also important to remember that current efficient technologies weren't always that way.

[ducati]

Ducati
I don't "like" wind turbines either but to distinguish myself from Trump, I am an engineer with a background in power generation. Without going on too much, wind generation is a total distraction, a waste of money and truly unreliable. Hardly a basis upon which to build our electricity generation strategy.
The truly disastrous consequence of this 100% renewable policy is that Scotland's electricty is the most expensive in the Western world and inevitably industry with high electricity usage (aluminium, paper, steel etc) will emigrate and we will be left with a green fanatic's ideal of 100% generation from renewables but with no industry to power - yup, this is the economics of the asylum!!

You are, as they say, preaching to the converted.

[secrets in symmetry]

I'm somewhat of a climate skeptic, or rather my view is that humanity has a low to negligible impact given the current evidence.Sighs...I think you mean "given the evidence you've studied carefully", which is probably very little.

[Rheghead]

I'm somewhat of a climate skeptic, or rather my view is that humanity has a low to negligible impact given the current evidence.

Glad to hear it. All scientists in the true sense of the word are sceptics especially the ones who specialise in climate science. Trouble is that you need an alternative theory to explain global temperature increases which I believe you don't. Don't take this personally, neither has the the most ardent climate sceptic. You are in good company! :)

[RecQuery]

And this is why arguing with climate astrologers is sometimes like debating religious fundamentalists.

[secrets in symmetry]

And this is why arguing with climate astrologers is sometimes like debating religious fundamentalists.Yes, you are exactly right, you are a climate change astrologer! Your opinions are based on believing what you like, and ignoring all the science and all the facts. I see it now - you are just like the religious fundamentalists, which is why you understand them so well! At least John Little tries to unearth what he thinks is plausible evidence or argument for his case. You, on the other hand, just state that you think humanity has little effect on the climate.

Rheghead is right, Climate scientists are the most sceptic of all, the problem is that the word "sceptic" has been hijacked by the deniers.

[bothyman]

I thought MSP's were there to represent us, that's why we put them there.

So why are they allowed to try and talk down to us, as if our opinions are nothing to do with them ??

[RecQuery]

Yes, you are exactly right, you are a climate change astrologer! Your opinions are based on believing what you like, and ignoring all the science and all the facts. I see it now - you are just like the religious fundamentalists, which is why you understand them so well! At least John Little tries to unearth what he thinks is plausible evidence or argument for his case. You, on the other hand, just state that you think humanity has little effect on the climate.

Rheghead is right, Climate scientists are the most sceptic of all, the problem is that the word "sceptic" has been hijacked by the deniers.

Don't know whether to LOL or sigh.

[secrets in symmetry]

Don't know whether to LOL or sigh.You could do the right thing and go bright red with embarrassment. :cool:

Understanding climate change is not easy. There probably isn't a simple demonstration that can convince the man in the street without him putting in some effort to try to understand what's going on. But to state that you think humanity has little or no effect on the climate without making a proper effort to understand it is almost as bad as supporting some of the postmodernist crap that you are so rightly dismissive of.

Evolution is similar, in that it's easy to dismiss using, e.g., the (incorrect) watchmaker argument - and that's why some people still don't accept it.