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John Little
04-Oct-11, 11:57
I just received an email from a group I joined on Facebook.


"Dear FairFuelUK Supporter
On Friday 30th October and in just 8 weeks, we reached the 100,000 signature count on the Government ePetition athttp://bit.ly/FFUK-Gov (http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/m/4bb55ca7/1795dd67/302532ab/315b0eec/1568610418/VEsE/). This is a vital step in our ongoing campaign to get a better deal on fuel duty. Reaching this 100,000 threshold means that we are now eligible for a full debate in Parliament on this vital issue.
Thank you for all your help and support.
So what happens next? On 11th October, the Member of Parliament championing the FairFuelUK campaign in Parliament, Robert Halfon MP, will formally submit our request for the debate. We will let you know what happens at that meeting.
There is now no further need for people to sign up on the Government ePetition site as we have already reached the required 100,000. However, we are continuing to ask people to sign up to our own website www.fairfueluk.com (http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/m/4bb55ca7/1795dd67/302532ab/315b0eed/1568610418/VEsF/) . Over the coming weeks, we will be asking our supporters to contact their MPs in the run up to the debate to encourage every MP to play an active part and to add their own weight to the battle. The more people that continue to sign at www.fairfueluk.com (http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/m/4bb55ca7/1795dd67/302532ab/315b0eed/1568610418/VEsC/) , the more impact we can have. So please continue to pass on details about FairFuelUK.
Reaching the 100,000 is a major milestone in our campaign. We know that many local and regional press releases picked up the news. However, we were a little disappointed that the national media outlets did not pick it. This shows just how vital it is to keep the pressure on if we are to keep the issue of cheaper petrol & diesel high up the media and political agendas.
Once again, thank you for your support, without which, none of the above would be possible,
Kind regards,
Quentin Willson & The FairFuelUK team
http://www.fairfueluk.com (http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/m/4bb55ca7/1795dd67/302532ab/315b0eed/1568610418/VEsD/)"

So the UK Parliament is going to debate fuel prices- let's hope there are some folk who will tell it like it is.

Link for those interested in the FB group; https://www.facebook.com/FairFuelUK

An interesting direction for Democracy.

oldmarine
05-Oct-11, 22:06
I just received an email from a group I joined on Facebook.


"Dear FairFuelUK Supporter
On Friday 30th October and in just 8 weeks, we reached the 100,000 signature count on the Government ePetition athttp://bit.ly/FFUK-Gov (http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/m/4bb55ca7/1795dd67/302532ab/315b0eec/1568610418/VEsE/). This is a vital step in our ongoing campaign to get a better deal on fuel duty. Reaching this 100,000 threshold means that we are now eligible for a full debate in Parliament on this vital issue.
Thank you for all your help and support.
So what happens next? On 11th October, the Member of Parliament championing the FairFuelUK campaign in Parliament, Robert Halfon MP, will formally submit our request for the debate. We will let you know what happens at that meeting.
There is now no further need for people to sign up on the Government ePetition site as we have already reached the required 100,000. However, we are continuing to ask people to sign up to our own website www.fairfueluk.com (http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/m/4bb55ca7/1795dd67/302532ab/315b0eed/1568610418/VEsF/) . Over the coming weeks, we will be asking our supporters to contact their MPs in the run up to the debate to encourage every MP to play an active part and to add their own weight to the battle. The more people that continue to sign at www.fairfueluk.com (http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/m/4bb55ca7/1795dd67/302532ab/315b0eed/1568610418/VEsC/) , the more impact we can have. So please continue to pass on details about FairFuelUK.
Reaching the 100,000 is a major milestone in our campaign. We know that many local and regional press releases picked up the news. However, we were a little disappointed that the national media outlets did not pick it. This shows just how vital it is to keep the pressure on if we are to keep the issue of cheaper petrol & diesel high up the media and political agendas.
Once again, thank you for your support, without which, none of the above would be possible,
Kind regards,
Quentin Willson & The FairFuelUK team
http://www.fairfueluk.com (http://action.fairfueluk.com/page/m/4bb55ca7/1795dd67/302532ab/315b0eed/1568610418/VEsD/)"

So the UK Parliament is going to debate fuel prices- let's hope there are some folk who will tell it like it is.

Link for those interested in the FB group; https://www.facebook.com/FairFuelUK

An interesting direction for Democracy.
I've been on Facebook and have decided this is a good one to ignore.:lol:

John Little
05-Oct-11, 22:11
That may be - but you pay an awful lot less for petrol than we do - and over 2/3 of what we pay is tax.

ducati
05-Oct-11, 22:59
What happened to high fuel duty being popular because it promoted green behaviour? :confused

John Little
06-Oct-11, 08:08
Well it's not with anyone I know.

You?

ducati
06-Oct-11, 13:53
Well it's not with anyone I know.

You?

Not really, but that was the theory behind the fuel duty accellarator.

Its like the lefty's used to be in favour of defence cuts, until the rightys did it! [lol]

John Little
06-Oct-11, 14:07
Funnily enough, all the major cuts in defence spending in the last 90 years have been carried out by the Conservative party. I don't know why people think otherwise.

ducati
06-Oct-11, 17:29
Yes I know, but it is always the left wing politicians that are conspicuous on anti war marches isn't it?

John Little
06-Oct-11, 17:40
I think it depends on the war.

Labour were in favour of stopping Hitler and against Appeasement. They refused to back Lord Halifax as a viable coalition leader because he wanted to negotiate peace with Hitler - Churchill was acceptable to them so the Conservatives appointed him leader because they wanted a coalition.

Korea? Labour committed 15,000 men to the war.

Suez? A Conservative Leader set up an un-necessary war.

Vietnam? Wilson kept us out - thank goodness!

Afghanistan? What are out boys doing there?

Iraq- don't make me laugh.

oldmarine
06-Oct-11, 18:10
John, The wise choice would be pull all the troops out and let those countries fight their own wars.

John Little
06-Oct-11, 18:38
I agree.

But the war you were in was a war worth fighting.

sandyr1
08-Oct-11, 02:07
Does one really think that a Facebook Campaign to a Committee is going to change the Petrol Prices anywhere?
And the Media didn't even pick it up!
The Gov't is...as is said by the Governor of the Bank of England...In Bbbbig Trouble/ I am sure that the last thing on their minds is a 'Facebook Petition'...

People have to grow up....This is the real World. As the main component in the price of petrol is taxes, how can they reduce same!!!!

orkneycadian
08-Oct-11, 13:31
Has any facebook campaign ever achieved anything?

gleeber
08-Oct-11, 13:44
If it achieves people to think about something then its achieved a lot. Give it another 50 years and who knows how much the internet will influence public opinion? Its still too early to say how much people will be influenced but my guess is that it will play a big part in the future.

John Little
08-Oct-11, 13:48
Well we seem to have one here that has achieved a Parliamentary debate.

Result I would say.


And if you Google successful Facebook Campaigns, you find a wide range of things that answer your question.

orkneycadian
08-Oct-11, 13:51
Does a debate at 10pm at night, attended by a handful of yawning MP's keen to get off for last orders count? Assuming it gets that far?

John Little
08-Oct-11, 13:54
Depends on how you look at it. Sparking a debate in Parliament is something that a lot of folk would like to do.

What happens in the debate and how seriously it is taken is another matter.

However, given the cost of fuel our representatives would do well to debate seriously.

ducati
10-Oct-11, 19:38
If it achieves people to think about something then its achieved a lot. Give it another 50 years and who knows how much the internet will influence public opinion? Its still too early to say how much people will be influenced but my guess is that it will play a big part in the future.

50 years is a long time, maybe we won't recognise the internet and there will be something else intirely. It's not good at free speech for a start. Too many regimes that don't want certain people heard are able to interfere.

ducati
10-Oct-11, 19:40
Depends on how you look at it. Sparking a debate in Parliament is something that a lot of folk would like to do.

What happens in the debate and how seriously it is taken is another matter.

However, given the cost of fuel our representatives would do well to debate seriously.

I don't do facebook. But I like the idea of a ' Citizen's lobby'.

BTW Why are you Wibbleing? Have I missed something?

John Little
10-Oct-11, 20:16
Citizen's lobby is a good way to describe it.

I wibble because there are some people on here who make me wibble. They make me wibble because their mindset would give Kafka nightmares.

Happily you are none such; we understand each other well. :)