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When I first found the Caithness.Org Forum I was very impressed with being part of a community where people could discuss topics, buy and sell, and, I thought, help and support each other.
However I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with this forum as many of the threads degenerate into criticism and negativity, the Caithness FM and the Reay psychic are just two examples of many.
I feel so sorry for those people who start what seems an innocent thread and they get lambasted with nasty comments.
What is wrong with these very negative people, I have a theory that their own lives are so unhappy they have to try to bring other people down to make themselves seem better, above everyone else.
Wouldn't it be much better to be more tolerant of each other and actually reply to the question posted in the thread.
John Little
04-Mar-11, 17:53
Perhaps part of the problem is the anonymity. You are Muffin and you could say more or less whatever you liked to me. I would not know who you were and I could not come round to your house and say 'Why did you say that horrible thing on the Org?'
My name is real. That makes me accountable to people and I do not say anything to them that I would not be prepared to say to their face. I also tend towards being polite and if I wish to say horrible things then I say it in acceptable language.
But a false name would remove my responsibility and almost turn me into a child in the playground again and I could give free and undisciplined rein to my baser side.
But, being an adult I generally choose to post as one.
I sometimes think that perhaps there should be a section of the Org that is only for real names.... it would be polite I think...
annemarie482
04-Mar-11, 17:58
well im happy! :D
maybe its the time of year thats getting everyone so petty and gripey! lol
bout time we had some cheerier threads on here, after all, isn't it supposed to be a wee bit of escapism from the days hard slog?!
rob murray
04-Mar-11, 18:00
Some of the opinions expressed are either wind ups or as I suspect many are actual opinions. Just have a look at the thread on pensioners cuts..some of the opinions held and expressed border on fanatical....work or want...bring back the work house type of stuff...just goes to show eh...
orkneycadian
04-Mar-11, 18:15
I suggested some changes to make things more harmonious in the General section, but the response I got was "we like it as it is, leave it alone!"
Seems that folk like the cut and thrust of posting anything and everything in the general section, and taking the flak that comes with it!
Those that favour a (slightly) quieter life seem to do so in the specialist sub sections.
I guess if you want a quiet, sensible night out, you go to a quiet, back street pub. If you want a riotous, wild night, you go to the busy city centre club! ;)
It ain't so much "cut and thrust" as "seal-clubbing for beginners"!
orkneycadian
04-Mar-11, 18:25
Now there's a brilliant idea for another specialist interest section! A skill thats almost died out these days!
There have been many ups and downs with the mood on the org. Quite a few of us will remember a time of great recrimination. Orgers are all individuals with unique personalities and we all suffer periods when perhaps we are not at our best. In my case, despite maybe having a bad day at school, I think I am generally a 'clean player'. If I feel that I am not in a sociable mood then I stay off the net rather than inflict what may have been a bad day onto my fellow orgers. However, today is a GOOD day and here I am spreading the joy. :D
Hope you all have a great weekend. :)
I also have enjoyed reading the threads for some time, but recently it has not been so much cut and thrust as bully and belittle. Lets hope that they get the message that there are people on here who like to be sociable and exchange opinions with respect and consideration for each other.
A lot of the problem is that certain posters think they are funny,when they are anything but with their quips and jibes :( but heyho we all have to try and get along and ignore it best we can,although sometimes that isnt easy! A lot of posters seem to get off with blue murder,when others get infractions for very little,I suppose it depends on how the moderator percieves it,rather than how other people do x
I am a happy orger.
A very true Caithness saying ..."You can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time, so sometimes it is just best of please yourself".
I am a happy orger.
A very true Caithness saying ..."You can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time, so sometimes it is just best of please yourself".
Same here Poppet, I am a very, very Happy Orger !!!
C3.....:roll:;):)
I suggested some changes to make things more harmonious in the General section, but the response I got was "we like it as it is, leave it alone!"
Seems that folk like the cut and thrust of posting anything and everything in the general section, and taking the flak that comes with it!
Those that favour a (slightly) quieter life seem to do so in the specialist sub sections.
I guess if you want a quiet, sensible night out, you go to a quiet, back street pub. If you want a riotous, wild night, you go to the busy city centre club! ;)
Quite agree orkneycadian.. we've had our 'animated discussions' with each other; we're diametrically apposed on certain things, but it does not descend into abuse, I respect your opinions and (maybe) you can respect my own stance - we don't face each other at daggers drawn..
Nothing gained there by shouting someone down or threatening is there?
annemarie482
04-Mar-11, 19:46
I also have enjoyed reading the threads for some time, but recently it has not been so much cut and thrust as bully and belittle. Lets hope that they get the message that there are people on here who like to be sociable and exchange opinions with respect and consideration for each other.
a total of 11 posts and looking at them most do what you have accused the others of doing. good start!:lol:
Kettle and pot come to mind Kells.
orkneycadian
04-Mar-11, 20:13
Quite agree orkneycadian.. we've had our 'animated discussions' with each other; we're diametrically apposed on certain things, but it does not descend into abuse, I respect your opinions and (maybe) you can respect my own stance - we don't face each other at daggers drawn..
Dagger? Don't posses such a thing! Nothing wrong with an animated discussion. Makes the place a bit lively! (and breaks the tedium of "does anyone know where I can get a...." threads! ;))
Like Poppet and corrie3 I too am a happy orger, the Org is the Org, and I hope it never changes, I dont agree with everything thats posted, but hey I cannot hear Caithness FM down here, and I dont believe in psychics, be they in Reay or Timbuctoo, so what do I care of these issues
I'm a happy Orger. Some people just need to grow some thiicker skin.
northener
04-Mar-11, 21:32
Well, I've always been a miserable old git.
Too late for me to start being nice to people, gawd knows what it could lead to.....
Dagger? Don't posses such a thing! Nothing wrong with an animated discussion. Makes the place a bit lively! (and breaks the tedium of "does anyone know where I can get a...." threads! ;))
You can get 'em in Tesco (plastic in toy section);)
Well, I've always been a miserable old git.
Too late for me to start being nice to people, gawd knows what it could lead to.....
Sunshine and daisies ;)
orkneycadian
04-Mar-11, 23:27
You can get 'em in Tesco (plastic in toy section);)
Are they any use for paunching rabbits with?
secrets in symmetry
04-Mar-11, 23:55
When I first found the Caithness.Org Forum I was very impressed with being part of a community where people could discuss topics, buy and sell, and, I thought, help and support each other.
However I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with this forum as many of the threads degenerate into criticism and negativity, the Caithness FM and the Reay psychic are just two examples of many.
I feel so sorry for those people who start what seems an innocent thread and they get lambasted with nasty comments.
What is wrong with these very negative people, I have a theory that their own lives are so unhappy they have to try to bring other people down to make themselves seem better, above everyone else.
Wouldn't it be much better to be more tolerant of each other and actually reply to the question posted in the thread.There is a difference between being tolerant and replying to questions. Since you request answers to the psychic question, I will happily do so. Unless I am very much mistaken, you still won't be happy. Sadly.
I'm a happy Orger. Some people just need to grow some thiicker skin.
This +1000, also tolerant means putting up with something, tolerating it if you will not accepting it. I'm fine with debate that doesn't have specific ad hominem attacks, that is personal attacks again that person (I'm okay with criticising or insulting a group)
Just because people disagree with your cherished beliefs it doesn't suddenly become a fundamental crisis or a problem needing analysed as a roundabout attack on those you happen to disagree with.
Are they any use for paunching rabbits with?
Sorry took a while to get back, but took me ages to catch one of the rabbits around here in the dark; fast little tykes they are.. Anyway after squeezing out the wee, tried to paunch with the dagger, but blow me down, Tesco have only gone and given 'em a rubber tip, so no blinking use whatsoever.. I don't know daggers they call em... yeah right!
a total of 11 posts and looking at them most do what you have accused the others of doing. good start!:lol:
That is 100% true, I give my opinion without calling names but no way do I back down from people who try to bully me. Because a person is new to posting on here should not mean they have less rights than some one who has posted on here for years. My experience of the bullies and name callers with their sarcastic comments have certainly made sure that I will not be bothering to post again.
oldmarine
05-Mar-11, 03:48
When I first found the Caithness.Org Forum I was very impressed with being part of a community where people could discuss topics, buy and sell, and, I thought, help and support each other.
However I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with this forum as many of the threads degenerate into criticism and negativity, the Caithness FM and the Reay psychic are just two examples of many.
I feel so sorry for those people who start what seems an innocent thread and they get lambasted with nasty comments.
What is wrong with these very negative people, I have a theory that their own lives are so unhappy they have to try to bring other people down to make themselves seem better, above everyone else.
Wouldn't it be much better to be more tolerant of each other and actually reply to the question posted in the thread.
muffin: It's sad you see the org in such a bad way. I've seen it worse at times. Fortunately when it gets too bad the offenders are knocked off the org. Some of them come back under a different name. Even then it's a matter of time until some of them are knocked off the org again. Try to grin through some of this stuff, keep a good attitude, and try again and again. You will eventually get used to it.
orkneycadian
05-Mar-11, 09:45
Anyway after squeezing out the wee, tried to paunch with the dagger, but blow me down, Tesco have only gone and given 'em a rubber tip, so no blinking use whatsoever.. I don't know daggers they call em... yeah right!
Tsssssh! :roll: Tesco!
annemarie482
05-Mar-11, 09:53
That is 100% true, I give my opinion without calling names but no way do I back down from people who try to bully me. Because a person is new to posting on here should not mean they have less rights than some one who has posted on here for years. My experience of the bullies and name callers with their sarcastic comments have certainly made sure that I will not be bothering to post again.
i can see what your saying, but maybe its the agressive way you jumped into the org.
most enter, and whilst they post regularly, keep the personal or sarcastic comments out until they get an idea of who can take it in the jest its intended etc as you would with work collegues or friends.
so it's not that they've posted here for years so have more rights, but more like they have had time to get to know alot about each other, their views, sometimes personal circumstances, and who can take a bit of banter and who cant. this knowledge can only come through time spent in the org.
The org will always have ups and downs,posters who are rude,insult others and generally upset the forums,but it also has LOTS of lovely genuine people who are always happy to give advice,and answer or offer help,thats what is good about it! It sometimes gets out of hand on here,and has even been closed down for a few days,and everyone missed it then,perhaps we should all bear that in mind when posting x
i can see what your saying, but maybe its the agressive way you jumped into the org.
most enter, and whilst they post regularly, keep the personal or sarcastic comments out until they get an idea of who can take it in the jest its intended etc as you would with work collegues or friends.
so it's not that they've posted here for years so have more rights, but more like they have had time to get to know alot about each other, their views, sometimes personal circumstances, and who can take a bit of banter and who cant. this knowledge can only come through time spent in the org.
thank you for that reply and it certianly deserves an answer and what you might take as an explanation of my posts. I have been following the org for well over a year and loved the vast majority of the postings and what was said. The people on here are very helpful in fact pretty much the same as all the locals in the county, so figured it was time for to stop lurking. I had started to post and then needed to change my log in as I had been using a hotmail addy. Not from any desire to hide my identity and many prob know who I am anyway. I put up a few posts as kitcat and there was nothing agressive or upsetting for anyone in them but I found I was called names such as stupid, dim etc and made fun off. At my age I have a very thick skin but I also have self respect and do not accept that from anyone, certianly not from ones who are about the same age as my grandchildren. lol I laughed when I realised I had been put down as a troll dropping something or another with my posts, that it actually was granny swinging her handback at them for being so cheeeky and rude. Thinking about I will continue to post and those who do not like what I have to say will find me swinging my handback if they try to bully me but I hope they have stopped their nonsense and I am free to be myself which is not agrresive or rude.
Aaldtimer
06-Mar-11, 04:02
So you're a granny with a handback? Mmmm...not a handbag?:confused
Granny's can usually spell better than most!
Aaldtimer.. she might be right.. IF she was posting previously as kitkat.. As on the 29 oct 04, posted: "my mother is in her eighties" so could quite easily be a granny (my daughter had her first kid at 40) so when she's in her 80's her son will be in his 40's.. whereas my eldest grandson is 19 and I'm in my 60's.. (He's also got a fiancé - bloody hell I could soon be a great-grandad!!!)
AND I speel wrong sometimes!
Aaldtimer.. she might be right.. IF she was posting previously as kitkat.. As on the 29 oct 04, posted: "my mother is in her eighties" so could quite easily be a granny (my daughter had her first kid at 40) so when she's in her 80's her son will be in his 40's.. whereas my eldest grandson is 19 and I'm in my 60's.. (He's also got a fiancé - bloody hell I could soon be a great-grandad!!!)
AND I speel wrong sometimes!
I am a Granny seven times over and there is no doubt about that and looking foward to being a great gran as well.:lol: Where did I post my Mother is 80? not doubting what you say but both my parents have been dead for many years.
So you're a granny with a handback? Mmmm...not a handbag?:confused
Granny's can usually spell better than most!
Tsk Tsk so I have a typo error, that happens often with me as I have trouble seeing the keyboard. And Granny's can usually spell better than most !!!!! Bet your Granny told you that, but I can see round corners:D ask any of my Grandkids.
I am a Granny seven times over and there is no doubt about that and looking foward to being a great gran as well.:lol: Where did I post my Mother is 80? not doubting what you say but both my parents have been dead for many years.
Hi this one here?: http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?1467-How-old-is-your-Mother&p=10821#post10821 ;)
I am a Granny seven times over and there is no doubt about that and looking foward to being a great gran as well.:lol: Where did I post my Mother is 80? not doubting what you say but both my parents have been dead for many years.
Well it certainly seems like Kitkats spelling is much better than Kells....
Sounds like a case of identity fraud to me....:roll:
C3....;)
Hi this one here?: http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?1467-How-old-is-your-Mother&p=10821#post10821 ;)
I am confused but that is not me this maybe was why I needed to change my previous name and addy though. My Mother did not come from up here but was born up West and then moved to Glasgow.
Once again it may be a different person posting, but what has spelling got to do with anything. It may sound like a case of identity fraud to you but before you accuse me of any such thing get your facts right and stop talking a lot of nonsense.
Once again it may be a different person posting, but what has spelling got to do with anything. It may sound like a case of identity fraud to you but before you accuse me of any such thing get your facts right and stop talking a lot of nonsense.
Sorry Kells, but it was you that said you were Kitkat in a previous .Org life. When you compare the spelling with Kitkat and Kells there is a vast difference !!!
Its no wonder everyone is thinking that things are just not right with your identity!!
C3... :-(
Sorry Kells, but it was you that said you were Kitkat in a previous .Org life. When you compare the spelling with Kitkat and Kells there is a vast difference !!!
Its no wonder everyone is thinking that things are just not right with your identity!!
C3... :-( Not that big a difference between Kitkat and Kitcat though so try that instead of assuming then posting you think I am a fraud. What a pathetic way to carry on ..... My spelling says I am a fraud...... grow up
:lol:
Not that big a difference between Kitkat and Kitcat though so try that instead of assuming then posting you think I am a fraud. What a pathetic way to carry on ..... My spelling says I am a fraud...... grow up
For someone who can see round corners your making the classic mistake of not watching the hook in front of your nose. :lol:
I am confused but that is not me this maybe was why I needed to change my previous name and addy though. My Mother did not come from up here but was born up West and then moved to Glasgow.
Whoops.. might be me, being a confused old git, presumed it was kitkat, you mentioned posting as kitcat, nothing on membership list - but that can be deleted if not used after a certain time.. So apologies from me :~(
thank you for that reply and it certianly deserves an answer and what you might take as an explanation of my posts. I have been following the org for well over a year and loved the vast majority of the postings and what was said. The people on here are very helpful in fact pretty much the same as all the locals in the county, so figured it was time for to stop lurking. I had started to post and then needed to change my log in as I had been using a hotmail addy. Not from any desire to hide my identity and many prob know who I am anyway. I put up a few posts as kitcat and there was nothing agressive or upsetting for anyone in them but I found I was called names such as stupid, dim etc and made fun off. At my age I have a very thick skin but I also have self respect and do not accept that from anyone, certianly not from ones who are about the same age as my grandchildren. lol I laughed when I realised I had been put down as a troll dropping something or another with my posts, that it actually was granny swinging her handback at them for being so cheeeky and rude. Thinking about I will continue to post and those who do not like what I have to say will find me swinging my handback if they try to bully me but I hope they have stopped their nonsense and I am free to be myself which is not agrresive or rude.
I did not claim to be Kitkat please read again...........and perhaps think again. If you read through those posts you might even find that I am for real. I mention the number of my house for a delivery from Puffin Croft so not hiding my identity at all. Maybe my spelling is not very good but at least I can read that KITKAT and KITCAT are different.
Whoops.. might be me, being a confused old git, presumed it was kitkat, you mentioned posting as kitcat, nothing on membership list - but that can be deleted if not used after a certain time.. So apologies from me :~(
Not a problem and thanks for helping me make some sense out of all this nonsense. I don't think Kitcat was even on the membership list and perhaps the confusion over my identity does explain the somewhat nasty reception I have received on the board.
If it is not too difficult for you try and read Bekisman's post and perhaps learn some manners from him. You def cannot read properly, I said my grandkids would tell you I can see round corners.
A month ago I could not even see a finger in front of my nose because I was blind, I can see pretty good today but a hook? what are you talking about.
SunnyChick
06-Mar-11, 20:44
Hi there,
I just read the first post on here, and mostly just skipped through comments very fast (sorry I'm rushing)!
Anyway, on the whole Caithness is a very friendly place and I've mostly had good experiences on the org, however, some members do take themselves a bit too seriously at times, but I wouldn't waste your energy worrying about that. Focus on the positives! xx
Thank you for your kind words, I have come to love Caithness and the people are very friendly. I came to stay here for a sad reason (lost my sight) but stay now with my sight returning because of the wonderful Docters here. So roll on the summer I will see it all now. xx
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