View Full Version : bad press once AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!
hi every1 i always check up on google news about staffies and what is being written by reporters and once again staffies are everywhere to do with attacks AGAIN!!! this is not the dogs fault its the young irresponsible owners who are wanting Pit Bull type dogs and the staffordshire bull terrier (staffie) is the closest thing you can get to a Pit Bull id say so there abusing the dogs lovely nature! any dog can bite another dog,child,man,woman if not socialised enough as a puppy! a jack russell,husky,whippet anything atal as if not trained properly can bite,nip some1! just sick of the bad press again,i can see the staffies getting banned under the Dangerous Dogs Act due to these idiots abusing the dogs loyalty! short ago there was that attack on that young girl with those rottweilers,once again not the dogs fault the owners for not socialising them enough as puppys and constantly training them to keep them in line as there a powerful breed! i think a new law should come out for every1 who wants to own any breed of dog should apply for a dog licence and see if they will be accepted or not! could every1 please tel me what they think about what am saying! thanks...
If there was an 'I agree' or 'Like' button, I would have hit it straight away.
Ban the deed and not the breed!!!
As you rightly say dbooth82 poor Staffies get such a bad press.In the right home they make the most wonderful family dog.
Not too sure about a dog licence being the answer though. Very difficult to differentiate between 'good' and 'bad' owners when applying for this.
I agree that something has to be done though.
must admit im scared of them. i know they are said to be loyal and great pets but its not all the owners faults in all cases. i have very nice neighbours with a not very nice staffy! it attacked all my dogs,one by one as iv been walking them.
i also have other neighbours with a collie that has sneaked up behind us and nipped in the sneaky way collies do, but the staffy was a very aggressive attack.
i do agree with the licence comment though. but i know that no-one would stop my neighbours owning a dog!
First and foremost I think it should be law that every dog owner must chip their dogs, not so easy to have a roaming or antisocial dog to chuck out the door when it can be traced back to you.
A minimum age for owning a dog also I think would help, No 16 year old should own a powerful dog that is their status symbol.
I think their should be some form of dog walking etiquette that becomes law and will be enforced, I get so mad when I put my dogs on the lead when people and other dogs are around, yet those people then allow their dogs to harass mine with pathetic shouts of come now thats naughty.
It is definately time something was done.
As you see it is definately my bug bear subject.
its a shame but def think maybe all dogs should be walked on a lead. my old dog was never on a lead and in the town he wouldnt leave my side,but at the beach or park he would play and speak to other dogs and there was never any problem,except from one or two over the top nervous people that would start screaming because my dog wagged its tail near theirs!!
it really annoys me when i meet my neighbour with her dog,its never on a lead and it doesnt answer, and is very aggressive! if it was the law then perhaps it would solve the problem.
must admit im scared of them. i know they are said to be loyal and great pets but its not all the owners faults in all cases. i have very nice neighbours with a not very nice staffy! it attacked all my dogs,one by one as iv been walking them.
i also have other neighbours with a collie that has sneaked up behind us and nipped in the sneaky way collies do, but the staffy was a very aggressive attack.
i do agree with the licence comment though. but i know that no-one would stop my neighbours owning a dog! hi cat like a says earlier its the irresponsible owners,ur neighbours shouldnt be walking there staffie off the lead if he is aggressive! perfect example! thanks for the reply.
daisychain
20-Feb-11, 21:51
In Warrington they cross staffs with pitbulls for fighting, my sister walks her dog in the canal park she says these dogs are very large and aggressive, always with young lads. One was found shot dead in the park it had fighting scars on it, they raided a garage and found a fighting pit. It's so sad, i have an english bull terrier whos the biggest woos' but i know how powerful he could be in the wrong hands. It,s wrong that these lovely dogs get such a bad name. My bullie was attacked on the beach by a black lab it ripped his face now he has scars and labs are supposed to be family dogs!!!
In Warrington they cross staffs with pitbulls for fighting, my sister walks her dog in the canal park she says these dogs are very large and aggressive, always with young lads. One was found shot dead in the park it had fighting scars on it, they raided a garage and found a fighting pit. It's so sad, i have an english bull terrier whos the biggest woos' but i know how powerful he could be in the wrong hands. It,s wrong that these lovely dogs get such a bad name. My bullie was attacked on the beach by a black lab it ripped his face now he has scars and labs are supposed to be family dogs!!! hi daisychain,am still shocked that dog fights still go on as i thot the police would be more clued up about the hole situation but i suppose they are useless! yeah young chaps thinkin there hard fighting there dogs when its them that is going to get the breed banned (staffies) as pit bulls have already been banned due to them abusing the breed!!!!
daisychain
20-Feb-11, 23:24
I think that most breeds are capable of being aggressive if it's beaten into them, but i also think that "line breeding"(incest) has alot to do with it too, putting daughter to father, mother to son and so on, it's just wrong!!
firstly i agree that staffies get bad press and they shouldnt cos theyre great pets, ive had people cross the road while im walking my staffie in town, which is just ridiculous unless youre scared she might lick you to death.... but putting a law on the age you can get one and all this stuff blaming young owners is stupid. i got my staffie for my 15th birthday and shes as soft as anything, yet i know plently of older people with agressive dogs cos theyve not trained them properly and dont show enough knowledge of them or how to properly look after such a strong breed.
i look after my staffie and shes obedient and wouldnt hurt a fly..... as i type this she has her head on mine and my cat on the side... so please dont go making this an age thing cos older people can make crap owners too and can often show as little responsibility as these "young folk tryna look hard" you're depicting.
not meaning to cause offense here or anything, cos i agree almost 100% with your comments, just tryna get my little point across :D
And a good point you made but something has to be done, for every good owner there are a huge amount of bad.
I definately see compulsory chipping as a way forward, yes there will be those who will slip through the net as always but most dogs need to see a vet at some point in time and there must be some scheme that can be implemented that dogs are scanned at vets and if no chip found then it is reported and acted upon in some way.
In fear of getting my head bitten off...... There is no such thing as a bad dog!! like children they are all born untarnished and blank canvasses its us as owners that decide and determine how they end up and behave, by how we educate, train, socialise and mould them, so a bad dog is all down to its ignorant owners who haven't taught wrong from right. Its all to do with its upbringing and education, and have to agree with dbooth in the fact that a registration of some kind should be brought in to wheedle out the known bad owners from having said breeds that they only get for status. I also feel breeders of these dogs or any dogs should be registered as breeders, pay a fee to breed, so we dont have an abundance of strays and unwanted dogs and be held accountable if puppies end up in the wrong hands, if things were better set up and the government was involved by way of implementing the databasing of breeders and dog registration that was accessible to breeders and rehoming centres then puppies and dogs going to bad owners could all be stopped. In theory anyway.
I agree wholeheartedly with you Aurora32 its all in the training
any dog can be a danger in the wrong hands i have a german shephard and theres a choc lab at the end off my street that went for her when we were out the other night but its no the dogs fualt i totally agree its the owners
of course owners have a lot to do with it,but so has breed! thats why there is different breeds. for example,by nature,my basset will never be a sheep dog,my collies are born knowing what to do(although need some training!).
my dogs would bark if you stood outside my garden with a dog,but they certainly wouldnt climb the fence and attack.thats because of handling and its just not in them. iv no idea why my neighbours dog does this,they certainly wouldnt encourage it.but they do know it does this,yet they defend it all the time and say its a great pet.
i dont want to be scared of staffies,and i didnt want my dogs natures to change either,but after these attacks we cant help it!
GruesomeTwosome
22-Feb-11, 14:28
I have two of 'those types of dog breeds' and I am all for chipping, registration, licencing, age limits etc. I have first hand knowledge of bull breeds and they are very different, very headstrong, sometimes arrogant (or maybe that is just my girl!), difficult to handle, but they can make excellent pets in the right and knowledgable hands.
I liked the comment about dogs being born untarnished and I agree with this, owners have a lot to answer for but other owners do too and there was another comment about people not putting their dogs on leads and letting them run wherever they want, I hate that and I dont know is it a case of people thinking 'well its that sort of dogs, it doesnt matter if my dog goes up and starts a fight, those two will can handle it'. WELL THEY CANT AND SHOULDNT HAVE TO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why should my previously very friendly dogs have to put up with disobedient, sometimes aggressive unmannered dogs. My dogs have been attacked many times and have now no patience for this type of behaviour so I avoid all other dogs unless I know them now. Dogs by nature can become less and less tolerant.
I just wish people would do their homework before getting a dog, do the training, behavour and socialising. I met a lady last week down the beach who couldnt hold on to her golden retriever and it was only a puppy, good luck to her. And as for the lady whose small mix dog attacked my dogs not only once but twice as she didnt put it on a lead. Please bear a thought for us whose dogs have had enough of this negligence and just want to go for walks with no drama. Good night and good luck! x
My word! A goldie puppy or indeed any puppy should be taken to obedience/training classes by any level of experienced owner i believe. Owners need to take responsibility for their animals and although you know your dog wont attack, strangers i guess it must be frightened no matter what type of dog it is comes running up to you whether wagging their tail or barking or whatever. The motto is train the owners and the rest will follow smoothly!
... I just wish people would do their homework before getting a dog, do the training, behavour and socialising.
I agree. Especially when getting a puppy, most of the time people go for looks etc. and don't do the research about the breed, what its original purpose was / is and what they need.
I think everyone getting a puppy should be required to prove that they attended obedience training at a certain age.
And people getting an adult dog should also be 'assessed' to show that they can handle their dog.
I watch 'It's me or the dog' with Victoria Stillwell and she's a very good trainer using positive enforcement - check her out and you'll learn a lot!
No dog is too old to learn and change their behaviour - often it's the owners that need to change their ways!
come on! making everyone attend obedience classes with their dog..... ridiculous. its not too difficult to train an obedient dog yourself it just takes time. having to 'prove' youve taken youre dog to some silly class doesnt make you a good owner and isnt really going to stop any dog from attacking if the owner doesnt keep the training up at home too. any dg can be trained to be obedient and classes arent needed. put in the time yourself and youll be fine. ive never taken my dog to obedience classes and yet she'll stay by my side, shes not aggressive and shes obedient but youre suggesting id have to take her anyway to prove im a fit owner? seriously? ....
no every dog has to go to classes but its good socilisation for them when there young i no lots of dogs that have never been and they r ace to be arround but theres always one that spoils it as its the wee that attacks the other dogs as has been already stated by someone its no the dogs as they have to learn right from wrong like kids do its the owners who have to spend time and correct the bad behaviour
I too am the owner of a Staffy and would welcome anyone to come see her and tell me that she is a 'viscous brute'. She is an extremely sociable girl and loves playing with other dogs. When she first meets any other dog she immediately lies on her back in the submissive mode. She does much the same when she meets people as she is very quiet and shy. She never barks, growls etc and she never once bit/nipped any of us even when she was very young and 'teething'. Don't get me wrong, she can pull the stuffing out of her toys in a matter of seconds but apart from that she is a wonderful family pet. I did lots of research on the internet before I bought her and in all the reports it states that they makes excellent pets as they are extremely good with children and infact have been named as 'nanny dogs' and the reports also state that they make useless guard dogs as they welcome all visitors with a waggy tail and a lick.
I definitely agree that it is how you bring a dog up that determines their attitude/nature.
Aaldtimer
25-Feb-11, 04:26
I too am the owner of a Staffy and would welcome anyone to come see her and tell me that she is a 'viscous brute'. She is an extremely sociable girl and loves playing with other dogs. When she first meets any other dog she immediately lies on her back in the submissive mode. She does much the same when she meets people as she is very quiet and shy. She never barks, growls etc and she never once bit/nipped any of us even when she was very young and 'teething'. Don't get me wrong, she can pull the stuffing out of her toys in a matter of seconds but apart from that she is a wonderful family pet. I did lots of research on the internet before I bought her and in all the reports it states that they makes excellent pets as they are extremely good with children and infact have been named as 'nanny dogs' and the reports also state that they make useless guard dogs as they welcome all visitors with a waggy tail and a lick.
I definitely agree that it is how you bring a dog up that determines their attitude/nature.
Yep, Jenni...that's exactly my experience of the one and only Staffie bitch I've met...lovely wee lass.
I dare say that others, especially males, could be taught bad habits though.:(
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