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billykipper
29-Jan-11, 00:46
8338After alot off stick from some people on here about advertising my lovely siberian puppy, whom i decided to keep due to someone saying how they were not suitable family pets they kill live stock,chew,dig holes in youre garden,dont answer you run away need loads off exercise and attention! Well i would just like every one to know he is now 11 weeks old house trained somtimes he will have the odd acident, gets on well with my 3 young childreen and my cat. we take him and his dad out to the beach not one off them have killed or worried any livestock he hasnt dug any holes in our garden neither has his dad who we have had for 6 years. he is a lovely family who is getting on brill! what i would say about owning a huskie or any other dog it depends how you treat them if you are kind and loving to them they will return that and be a loyal friend for life thanks

Sarah
29-Jan-11, 01:32
I think Huskies are beautiful, just too much work for me :D

Aaldtimer
29-Jan-11, 05:41
8338After alot off stick from some people on here about advertising my lovely siberian puppy, whom i decided to keep due to someone saying how they were not suitable family pets they kill live stock,chew,dig holes in youre garden,dont answer you run away need loads off exercise and attention! Well i would just like every one to know he is now 11 weeks old house trained somtimes he will have the odd acident, gets on well with my 3 young childreen and my cat. we take him and his dad out to the beach not one off them have killed or worried any livestock he hasnt dug any holes in our garden neither has his dad who we have had for 6 years. he is a lovely family who is getting on brill! what i would say about owning a huskie or any other dog it depends how you treat them if you are kind and loving to them they will return that and be a loyal friend for life thanks

Hi Billy, just awee bit confused here!:confused
If this is your first post, how can you have had "stick" as you put it?
OK, you have an 11 week old puppy, and it's looking good the way it's going...but that's no telling how the adult dog will turn out depending on it's subsequent environment.
Let's face it, it's a big dog eventually, and needs a lot of work...not everyone's cup o' tea!
However, you seem a sensible chap, and the pup's dad seems to be cool...I hope it works out for all concerned.:)

porshiepoo
29-Jan-11, 11:14
Personally I don't really know too much about the Husky breed. I used to show Great Danes and I do remember Husky breeders telling me that they can worry livestock, can be 'selectively deaf during recall' and can be very vocal and destructive. However any breed has the ability to do all those things, heck my GSD's have the ability to do all of those things. I think it depends on how much mental stimulation they get and how assertive the owners are. Huskies are naturally pack animals and they will try to become alpha leader if there is no other dominant personality within the pack - that includes humans. THAT's when you get problems me thinks.

IMO they are not a breed for a first time owner unless said owner has experience of the breed.

angusk2
29-Jan-11, 18:13
IMO they are not a breed for a first time owner unless said owner has experience of the breed.

So how do you get experience of the breed if not 'a first time owner'?

I remember the thread with the 'stick' in it,lots of people sticking there nose in as usual lad

porshiepoo
29-Jan-11, 19:05
What I meant was knowledge of the breed would be better if a first time buyer. To most people that statement would be obvious but it's amazing how many people buy a dog sincerely believing they're simply buying a pet. There are still many people who buy a breed simply because they like the look of it, without any further thoughts as to whether they can provide an adequate home for that breed.

I was also suggesting that the Husky IMO may not be suitable for the first time dog owner unless they have experience with the breed or similar breeds. I wasn't suggesting that a responsible experienced dog owner should not consider this breed.
My bad, I should have worded more carefully!

Responsible pet ownership!

billykipper
30-Jan-11, 00:09
porshiepoo! if you do not know too much about this breed of dog why are you so determind to give all the bad and negitive points about huskies, you have never owend one have you? yes some people have bad experiances that can happen with any dog. i know a handfull of people with huskies who havent had all these problems with there dogs they still have theres! you should keep in mind that youre own GSD are bread for protecting sheep they are gaurd dogs and they can be extremly dangours if provoked! i think that you should leave it for people to make up there own minds im not selling my pup and if i was going to it would be up to me as an owener and seller to tell people what the good and bad points are and i would certinly not sell any dog to just anyone!

porshiepoo
30-Jan-11, 09:28
porshiepoo! if you do not know too much about this breed of dog why are you so determind to give all the bad and negitive points about huskies, you have never owend one have you? yes some people have bad experiances that can happen with any dog. i know a handfull of people with huskies who havent had all these problems with there dogs they still have theres! you should keep in mind that youre own GSD are bread for protecting sheep they are gaurd dogs and they can be extremly dangours if provoked! i think that you should leave it for people to make up there own minds im not selling my pup and if i was going to it would be up to me as an owener and seller to tell people what the good and bad points are and i would certinly not sell any dog to just anyone!

Rein it in mate and don't start slathering about an opinion.

Read my initial post and you will see that I explained I have no experience of the breed myself but that experienced Husky breeders/owners told me of several disadvantages to the breed.
Seriously Billykipper get over yourself and stop taking offence to every comment you see as a slight.

In fact I wasn't actually slagging the breed off. I even pointed out that all the bad things that Husky breeders told me about the breed are just as likely to show in other breeds too. In other words they weren't breed specific.

The problem with people like yourself is that you cannot see the negative side to your Huskies (yes, they do have them, all breeds do) and therefore your information given to possible puppy owners could be biased or untrue.
Yes, as you stated it is up to yourself to tell future owners the good points AND the bad points of the breed however if you can't even stand to hear those bad points I seriously doubt that you'll say them out loud.
THAT is when things start to go wrong and breeds get bad names.

I bred a litter of Dane puppies and although I love the breed, think they are the best breed etc etc I am at least honest with myself and prospective owners as to what the breed is and isn't suitable for. For instance, everyone sees them as gentle giants - which they can be - but Danes are naturally stand offish and this can be disconcerting for a large breed animal. They also have a tendency to sit on things and are not ageist, they could care less whether the knee is that of a 4 year old child or a 90 year old grandparent - they'll sit on it. They also lean like you wouldn't believe and I've seen many a child bowled over by this. Danes were also bred for bringing down wild boar and many Danes today show tendencies to come from behind and swipe your feet.
They are an amazing breed however I would not be being responsible if I did not point out character traits that some may find over whelming.

The same goes for Huskies. I was merely repeating what experienced Husky owners have told me in the past. They've also told me they can be extremely vocal.

So get a grip, calm down, stop reading between the lines and seeing what you want to see. Enjoy your pup regardless of what you think others may be saying and stop slathering all over my comments.

Have a nice day!

porshiepoo
30-Jan-11, 09:59
OK I decided to check out the Husky breed just to make sure that all the info I was given by breeders / owners over the years was not in fact complete tosh, in which case I would need to retract my comments or at least apologise for being wrong.
I understand Billykippers passion for the breed and so felt I should check out the 'Siberian Husky Club of Great Britain' and see what they say: has to be a reliable source right?
Here's what they say about the Husky:

What is the Siberian Husky?
The Siberian Husky is one of the recognised sled dog breeds. The others are the Alaskan Malamute, the Eskimo dog, and the Samoyed. If you also want information of these other sled dogs you should contact their breed clubs, the addresses are available from the Kennel Club.
The Siberian Husky was the winter sled dog of the Chukchi people of Siberia. They were expected to travel fairly quickly for long distances pulling a moderate load in low temperatures, while not eating their masters out of house and home. They were welcome in the dwellings as playmates for the children and as hot water bottles at night. During the summer they ran loose, hunting and fending for themselves. This lifestyle, which continued unchanged for centuries, produced a breed of dog which retained the pack living and hunting attributes of the wolf, while being unaggressive and affectionate towards people.

The Siberian is little changed today and is still capable of fulfilling his original function and could if necessary survive in his historic self-sufficient lifestyle.

This is no problem to owners willing to adapt to and tolerate his natural instincts, but would be a liability to those who really want a more 'civilised' dog.

Now lets check out the minus points. I've highlighted a couple for reference.

The Minus Points


Not a one-man dog- any human will do- this may be seen as a lack of loyalty.
He will not guard your home or property.
Strong desire to run. If he gets free he will run so far he will be lost, if not hit by a car or train, or shot by a farmer.
Cannot be relied on to return to you on command. He will decide whether or not to return for himself, knowing that you cannot catch him.
Too independent and strong willed generally to be a candidate for obedience training/work.
Keen and efficient hunter and killer. Cannot be trusted with non-canine pets or livestock of any sort. On occasion been known to accept into the pack a cat that he is brought up with, but all others will be regarded as fair game. Please note - huskies have been known to kill cats, that they have lived happily with for many years, for no obvious reason.
Like any dog- must be exercised to keep him fit and contented, but this must be done ON lead.
Can be very destructive, especially when young and/or if left alone for a long time.
Needs company, either human or canine, and is miserable without it.
Needs a safely enclosed exercise area. Your garden must be fully fenced and secure. Six foot high fencing USUALLY enough. Check neighbours will not object to high fences. Take care he cannot dig his way out beneath it, and do not leave dustbins etc near the fence or he may use them to get over the top. Keep the garden gate locked, otherwise there is a risk that visitors, window cleaners etc may leave them open.
Your garden is unlikely to remain neat and tidy with a Sibe, rampaging happily within.
He needs correct feeding- breeders will be able to tell you which foods suit Sibes and which can cause problems.
Moults twice a year. The quantity of fur shed can surprise you, especially in spring when the winter coat is replaced by a shorter, thinner summer coat.
You need an understanding and experienced veterinary surgeon. Sibes are sensitive to some drugs, particularly anaesthetics, sedatives and tranquillisers. This is due to their relatively low metabolic rate and lack of body fat. Also the bulk of their fur can lead vets to overestimate their weight and so overdose them. Sibes should always be weighed accurately beforehand to avoid this.




Hmmm, so it would seem I was not so far off the mark with what I had been told and believed all these years. A highly intelligent breed that needs mental stiumulation to keep him happy and well socialised.
I should say though that this same information does state that they are quiet dogs except when howling :roll: so I guess they're not as vocal as I thought. Kind of!

There. I feel vindicated.

I did not intend to slag off this breed. Like I've told BK we considered this breed before getting GSD's.

_Ju_
30-Jan-11, 10:59
I should say though that this same information does state that they are quiet dogs except when howling :roll: so I guess they're not as vocal as I thought. Kind of!


Oh, Porshie, you are right: they are hugely vocal when kept in situations that many other dogs can cope with, but that the Husky and samoyedo stress under. If they are left alone for protracted ammounts of time in restricted spaces such as kennels or in a house they will get the most tolerant dog lover to call noise nuisance police! True they don't tend to bark per se. They yip-yip-yip-howllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. I have known several husky owners go to the vet to figure out how to quiet their dog when they are at work because of neighbour complaints. They just get very stressed when bored don't do well closed in.

Many people manage to have a happy pet owner relationship with their Husky, but like the collie, it is a dog that requires an owner that knows the breed and his dog very well and that has the time to give the dog.