Freezing Fog

[Moonboots]

I was just looking out of my window onto Thurso Victoria Walk and what a lovely picture of the freezing fog coming off the water...

I would have taken a picture but my camera phone wouldnt take a good picture but it would be a good picture for any photographer...

Anyone seen it....

[mums angels]

I was seeing it from the kitchen window and would have also taken a picture but battery in my camera is dead :confused

[bekisman]

Freezing Fog, remember many years ago in early January, driving down the M5 and this stuff came down, the whole motorway came to a halt - we managed to limp off at Taunton Dean services, and slept in the car overnight - nowadays the defrosting of cars is better.. but then...

[new driver]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/5226080363_e90f6cee92_z.jpg

Took this on my walk to town today. Sorry about the lamp posts but no option from Brims Road.
Photo on Flickr.

[hunter]

Arctic sea smoke (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O14-Arcticseasmoke.html)

Found this pic of it in Thurso Bay last year on Flikr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/3068090880_a370e6b9b7.jpg

[North Light]

Hunter,

I'm not being picky, but by posting this from Flickr without permission you are in breach of copyright law.
The image is shown as all rights reserved and permission should be obtained from the photographer prior to use.
In his instance I would have no problem with it being used, but the photograph must be accredited to me, and a link back to the flickr page should be inserted.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/north_light/3068090880/in/photostream/

new driver
That's a great image, I need to spend less time in an office, and more out with a camera!!

[chirpy chick]

I've seen lots of freezing fog this year looks very alian

[hunter]

Hunter,



Sorry about that, no offence intended.

[DrChin]

Here is a Pic I took today of the freezing Fog in Thurso Bay. Not very good quality as it was taken on my phone.

http://i55.tinypic.com/5by05k.jpg

[North Light]

Hunter,

Thanks, no offence taken. I have found some of my photographs posted on commercial websites with no accreditation or permission and hence I'm a little sensitive on the subject!

NL

[seadog]

It looks impressive but is called sea smoke. This occurs when the really cold fresh water from the river meets the much warmer sea water.

[theone]

It looks impressive but is called sea smoke. This occurs when the really cold fresh water from the river meets the much warmer sea water.

That's right. I think we'll see alot more as the snow melts.

[theone]

Hunter,

I'm not being picky, but by posting this from Flickr without permission you are in breach of copyright law.
The image is shown as all rights reserved and permission should be obtained from the photographer prior to use.
In his instance I would have no problem with it being used, but the photograph must be accredited to me, and a link back to the flickr page should be inserted.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/north_light/3068090880/in/photostream/



Just out of interest, what IS the law in this matter?

You've posted pictures in the public domain, which hunter has found using an internet search engine. He then posted a link to the picture in a not for profit forum with a clear explanation of where he found it. He hasn't hosted it elsewhere itself, it's just a link back to the site you placed it on.

I'd be interested to know the legalities here.
Does that really make him a criminal?

[North Light]

Firstly can I make it quite clear that I'm sure that hunter meant no offence, an apology has been made and accepted and the subject is closed.

theone,

To answer I need to refer to hunter's original posting of the photograph shown below.
The link is to an article about Arctic Sea Smoke, the photograph shown is preceded by "Found this pic of it in Thurso Bay last year on Flikr", the photograph is not attributed to any photographer, or is linked back to the source.

The link back to the source was added in my post.



Arctic sea smoke (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O14-Arcticseasmoke.html)

Found this pic of it in Thurso Bay last year on Flikr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/3068090880_a370e6b9b7.jpg


In answering the question about the legalities you need to delve into Copyright Law, but briefly, as the photographer my work is automatically protected from copying or use without the photographers permission, unless I have sold the copyright, or have chosen to allow limited use by modifying my Copyright with a Creative Commons license or similar.
If you look at the individual image page on flickr you will see that the image is marked © All Rights Reserved, and that if you go to my profile page there is a statement about the use of my images, "The copyright of all my images on flickr is "All rights reserved" and hence the reproduction of these images in any form is expressly forbidden without my permission.
If you wish to use one of these images please contact me."

The fact that I've posted pictures in the public domain does not in any way change the copyright protection of my work.

To keep this in perspective, I do allow my work to be used by other people, it would be charged for if the use is for commercial gain, or use by a Commercial Organisation, there are other instances where I will not charge for use, or refuse use.

I feel its reasonable that as the author I retain the right to choose how my work is used and that I always request the the image be attributed to the photographer

[Phill]

Although there is some legal protection on copyright it is generally perceived that anything posted on the tinterweb is 'fair game'.

My point of view, generally not just for images, is that if you post it on the web (even within a 'private' social network) it will be used and abused.
Don't post anything anywhere on the web if you want to keep any form of control. IMHO

I now share most of my images in the raw form straight from the camera card via photobucket. Bit by bit, as and when I have time, I am uploading all my old images. The deal is that all rights are reserved and permission is required however I see them pop up all over the place. I started to accept that a long while ago.

What does annoy me is when you find out your images are being broadcast on the news and someone else pick up a 4 figure sum, that is a real piddler.

What really annoys me is when the images are used by someone else and they have made an arse of resizing them and the end up looking crap. (Ok most are crap to start with but that is my crap).

Anyway, tangents and thread drifts aside here a couple of old ones of mine to try and bring this post vaguely back on topic:

http://w1.phillrawlins.com/oldsite/images/dunnethead.jpg

http://w1.phillrawlins.com/oldsite/images/keisscastle.jpg

[theone]

theone,

To answer I need to refer to hunter's original posting of the photograph shown below.
The link is to an article about Arctic Sea Smoke, the photograph shown is preceded by "Found this pic of it in Thurso Bay last year on Flikr", the photograph is not attributed to any photographer, or is linked back to the source.

The link back to the source was added in my post.





In answering the question about the legalities you need to delve into Copyright Law, but briefly, as the photographer my work is automatically protected from copying or use without the photographers permission, unless I have sold the copyright, or have chosen to allow limited use by modifying my Copyright with a Creative Commons license or similar.
If you look at the individual image page on flickr you will see that the image is marked © All Rights Reserved, and that if you go to my profile page there is a statement about the use of my images, "The copyright of all my images on flickr is "All rights reserved" and hence the reproduction of these images in any form is expressly forbidden without my permission.
If you wish to use one of these images please contact me."

The fact that I've posted pictures in the public domain does not in any way change the copyright protection of my work.

To keep this in perspective, I do allow my work to be used by other people, it would be charged for if the use is for commercial gain, or use by a Commercial Organisation, there are other instances where I will not charge for use, or refuse use.

I feel its reasonable that as the author I retain the right to choose how my work is used and that I always request the the image be attributed to the photographer

Thanks for the response, I was just interested.

One thing though, the photograph was not "posted" here. It was linked directly from the flickr page. Right Click on the image on the original post and you can see that: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/3068090880_a370e6b9b7.jpg

I'm surprised that a site like flickr, which is obviously used by a number of people who wish to protect their copyright, doesn't automatically apply a copyright notice when providing a link to forums.