View Full Version : US Government Seizing Websites
Shabbychic
28-Nov-10, 12:24
I believe there was a thread about this a while ago, and many didn't believe it would happen, but it apparently has now started. So far, over 70 websites have been seized, and they are trying to pass further legislation to give them even more powers. :eek:
Story here (http://www.naturalnews.com/030542_censorship_internet.html).
ShelleyCowie
28-Nov-10, 12:36
This thread was started over a year ago by Scorpio12thnov, everyone thot he was mad thinking it was true.
http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?t=95122&highlight=scorpio12thnov
I noticed this when my usual website for watching tv shows online was shut down. Within hours it was back online with the domain .cc rather than .net.
There isn't much the US can do because as long as the sites are hosted out of the US there isn't anything they can do.
I dont see this as human rights being violated in any way as they are taking down illegal sites that violate copyright. About time i say -hypocritical i know. :)
Looking at that thread it will be interesting to see Metalattakk response.:lol:
This is what they put on the site they have seized
http://tvshack.net/SiteSeizedNOTICE.JPG
Wonder if they will do the same to wikileaks?
Metalattakk
28-Nov-10, 15:36
Looking at that thread it will be interesting to see Metalattakk response.:lol:
O NOES! Obama has switched off TEH INTERNETS!!!
Oh wait, no he hasn't. Your own example of changing hosting proves this.
Metalattakk
28-Nov-10, 15:44
Wonder if they will do the same to wikileaks?
Wikileaks is hosted in France. Does US law apply in France?
Wikileaks is hosted in France. Does US law apply in France?
Registrant Name:John Shipton c/o Dynadot Privacy
Registrant Street1:PO Box 701
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:San Mateo
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:94401
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6505854708
OK http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2010/10/29/wikileaks-edges-further-away-from-the-us.html
I dare say that the 'mercins will take down any site that is available in the states that they have the means to.
Do you think they would tolerate a radio broadcast into the states that broke their laws?
I see (on Sky) that wikileaks say their server is under cyber attack.
Gosh! I wonder who's doing that? ;)
Wikileaks is hosted in France. Does US law apply in France?
It do if they say it do :lol:
I see (on Sky) that wikileaks say their server is under cyber attack.
Gosh! I wonder who's doing that? ;)
China....?
O NOES! Obama has switched off TEH INTERNETS!!!
Oh wait, no he hasn't. Your own example of changing hosting proves this.
We all know if wont work, and its a waste of money.
But a year ago you said it was rubbish and it would never happen.:roll:
We all make mistakes :p just not everyone admits to them...
It's not possible to turn off the Internet, it is possible to effectively isolate parts of it from other parts, it all depends how much money you're willing to speed and how unethical your IT is. China and Iran et al currently do a half-assed job of this. I suppose they want the highest return on investment and are just happy if 90% of the populace doesn't have access to subversive material.
Okay the registrant whois information is not the same as the physical location of the server; it's registered in the US but hosted in France. Think Swiss bank account and applying the owners countries laws to those. It's even possible to host multiple servers in numerous locations cluster them and tie then into a CDN. That being said .com .net .org etc are controlled by US registrars.
I doubt it's Obama either, all indications point to big business and all they've done is a DNS repoint, changing the nameservers. Hence all people need to do is register a domain not controlled by a US based authority or just tell people to use an IP.
You forgot locating the server in whatever country and bombing the tar out of it [lol]
See my thread ;) http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?t=129172
You forgot locating the server in whatever country and bombing the tar out of it [lol]
Hmmm.......SW1A 2AA!
How about that fer a server location? Could be a giggle as Obama doesn't seem that keen on Dave the rave anyway.
Metalattakk
29-Nov-10, 01:54
We all know if wont work, and its a waste of money.
But a year ago you said it was rubbish and it would never happen.:roll:
We all make mistakes :p just not everyone admits to them...
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z55/Metalattakk/f_doh.gif
It is rubbish, and it's not happening. Obama is not shutting down the internet.
And you wanna know why? He can't.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z55/Metalattakk/f_doh.gif
It is rubbish, and it's not happening. Obama is not shutting down the internet.
And you wanna know why? He can't.
Yep, take out a few strategic hubs, data centres, and ISPs, Bob's your uncle.
Not to mention the vast majority is still cabled together.
The mercins have enough resources to pretty much do what they want, given enough motivation.
I've heard the whole thing runs off a 13amp plug in a broom cupboard in the white house. :eek:
It'll be some treasure hunter digging fer gold coins in Cornwall that'll switch the tinterweb off when he puts his shovel through the wire.
As I've said they can isolate parts from other parts or temporarily screw with DNS or some other service but they can't take the entire thing down and even if they spent a lot doing some high grade isolation, there are still ways around that.
The Web Sites that are being shut down, now over 80 in number, are those that sell 'fake goods etc'.
Complaints are received by the USA Fed Gov't., and they take action as appropriate.....
Nothing to worry about.......
The Web Sites that are being shut down, now over 80 in number, are those that sell 'fake goods etc'.
Complaints are received by the USA Fed Gov't., and they take action as appropriate.....
Nothing to worry about.......
Unless your in that trade...In fact I'm sure I have a pair of adeedas trainers lying around...
As I've said they can isolate parts from other parts or temporarily screw with DNS or some other service but they can't take the entire thing down and even if they spent a lot doing some high grade isolation, there are still ways around that.
You're coming at it from an IT perspective, I'm coming at it from an ordinance perspective. [lol]
This one works!: http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/#
This one works!: http://www.turnofftheinternet.com/#
Yeah..ironicaly, you have to turn off your pop up blocker before you can turn off the interwebynet.
"Just to let anyone know, the above website is down due to a flood at a building in Inverness which hosts the site"
From another thread.
We don't need Obama, we need Noah :lol:
Yeah..ironicaly, you have to turn off your pop up blocker before you can turn off the interwebynet.
This still temporally shuts down the whole world's internet, and my pop-up blocker is in operation.. I think as 'the button' shown, is such a powerful tool, maybe it acts spasmodically?
Obama had to go and shut down ANOTHER of my TV show streaming sites![evil]
Obama had my full support until then, this is just crazy.
The logic is, if i cant watch TV illegally online then i have no reason to have the internet, and if nobody had the internet millions of people would be out of work, the government wouldn't be able to spy on me and there would be a very empty 8 hours in the day of people lives.
Some people just don't understand:roll:
Anarchy here we come......
oldmarine
30-Nov-10, 22:32
Wikileaks is hosted in France. Does US law apply in France?
I'm certain that France would not allow US law to apply in their country. The last time I was there I felt very unwelcomed.
oldmarine
30-Nov-10, 22:38
When my comrades landed in France they were very welcomed. After DeGaul ordered them out of France none of my comrades were welcomed except in Normandy.
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