View Full Version : Cuts damn cuts and where they should land
We're hearing lots about the big society- and quite a number of orgers disapprove of people loafing about on benefits at other people's expense. However, when the spending review is published (and how many BBC and ITV newsreaders appear to be relishing this) it won't be just those idle folk that will be hit- it will be everyone.
So what would you think an appropriate strategy?
How about :
charging families for keeping pupils at school beyond 16? At Uni rates?
University fees at 10k plus per year?
the elderly to pay for personal care?
Council tax to double?
VAT at 30%
tax relief for bankers?
abolish inheritance tax for those with estates over three million pounds?
replace local government employees with prisoners- who can take over street sweeping and bin emptying
abolish pensions - everyone to work until they drop or have sufficient savings to prove they can provide for themselves
do away with all family allowance?
charge everyone for use of hospital beds? stigmatise the poor who can't afford to pay
redeyedtreefrog
13-Oct-10, 00:09
Sounds like hell.
wavy davy
13-Oct-10, 00:36
Sounds like hyperbole
I'd say someone has leaked the spending review due on the 20th.
tonkatojo
13-Oct-10, 09:53
Or the tory agenda comes to the fore, assisted by the lib dems of course.
remember that George Osborne is no-one's friend- unless they happen to own a yacht and hand out freebies- just think Peter Mandelson with power.
Why did no-one push Yvette Cooper for Labour leader- they might have become electable again
You sound like an "I'm alright Jack" kind of guy.
We cant live in a society where those fortunate enough to have a well paid job live the high life while the poor (through no fault of their own) are left on the streets to rot.
You had some good ideas though:
University fees at 10k plus per year?
VAT at 30% (Temporary)
Prisoners to work for free
No NHS
remember that George Osborne is no-one's friend- unless they happen to own a yacht and hand out freebies- just think Peter Mandelson with power.
Why did no-one push Yvette Cooper for Labour leader- they might have become electable again
Why would we want them back? They got us into this mess. Tony Blair did pretty well out of his job, hardly a good advert for socialism and none of the cuts will touch him.
Ive got a better idea. bring the troops home from the middle east, withdraw from the EU and stop giving billions in foreign aid.
tonkatojo
13-Oct-10, 19:01
Ive got a better idea. bring the troops home from the middle east, withdraw from the EU and stop giving billions in foreign aid.
I would support that policy.
redeyedtreefrog
13-Oct-10, 19:46
Ive got a better idea. bring the troops home from the middle east, withdraw from the EU and stop giving billions in foreign aid.
What an awful idea. Apart from the bit about taking troops home, that's a good idea.
Ive got a better idea. bring the troops home from the middle east, withdraw from the EU and stop giving billions in foreign aid.
Shall we become communist while we are at it?
Ive got a better idea. bring the troops home from the middle east, withdraw from the EU and stop giving billions in foreign aid.
Give Engerland home rule [lol]
Give Engerland home rule [lol]
Scottish independence maybe...
That'd be funny for at least a few weeks.....
John Little
13-Oct-10, 19:55
Aye. But if the people of Scotland want independence then they should have it.
Not if they don't know what they are getting in to.
There isn't enough oil to go around.
And if there was, then they would have been invaded by now.
John Little
13-Oct-10, 20:04
LOL - that may well be.
Nonetheless, however I might be upset to see the breakup of the UK there is this thing called democracy. And imho, if the people of an area with their own culture, laws, currency, traditions, language, literature etc want to run their own affairs then they have the undoubted right to self determination.
I think it should be put to the test; there should be a referendum to let the nation decide, where all have an opportunity to state their case.
And whatever decision is taken the other side should then subside into graceful silence.
Historically the marriage between England and Scotland was a forced one. That is not to say that it is not a good one. These days government flourishes on consent.
Let us have this thing out and be done.
The mess that we are constantly told the country is in, wasn't down to ordinary people- it was down to big corporations in the USA, under first Clinton and later George W Bush. Take an ordinary Joe working for Chrysler or GM. He has a deal that his employment offers him health insurance for him and his dependants. The US corporations took that away- limiting health care to the worker only. he's not paid enough to afford insurance for his family- and then his wife gets cancer. he has to find money for treatment- and defaults on his mortgage. or Mrs and Mrs Smug working in an office in New york. They take out a sub prime mortgage to buy a holiday home . Then one of them loses his/her job. get the picture? While all this is going on a hedge fund manager takes a punt that so many people will default on loans- and it pays off.
But these are the bankers who get the rewards, while a nurse or a teacher loses his/her pension.
We're told its all down to benefit fraud. I'd agree fraud has got us in a mess- but its down to the people who forced the previous goverment to borrow to bale out the banks. I'd sooner have seen those banks crash than what ordinary people will ahve to go through. My neighbour's daughter is shuddering at what those Uni fees going up will do to her life- and contemplating not taking up her place to study physiotherapy.
So- who might you blame?
The mess that we are constantly told the country is in, wasn't down to ordinary people- it was down to big corporations in the USA, under first Clinton and later George W Bush. Take an ordinary Joe working for Chrysler or GM. He has a deal that his employment offers him health insurance for him and his dependants. The US corporations took that away- limiting health care to the worker only. he's not paid enough to afford insurance for his family- and then his wife gets cancer. he has to find money for treatment- and defaults on his mortgage. or Mrs and Mrs Smug working in an office in New york. They take out a sub prime mortgage to buy a holiday home . Then one of them loses his/her job. get the picture? While all this is going on a hedge fund manager takes a punt that so many people will default on loans- and it pays off.
But these are the bankers who get the rewards, while a nurse or a teacher loses his/her pension.
We're told its all down to benefit fraud. I'd agree fraud has got us in a mess- but its down to the people who forced the previous goverment to borrow to bale out the banks. I'd sooner have seen those banks crash than what ordinary people will ahve to go through. My neighbour's daughter is shuddering at what those Uni fees going up will do to her life- and contemplating not taking up her place to study physiotherapy.
So- who might you blame?
But it was our money in the banks :roll:
Give Engerland home rule [lol]
We're ruled by Brussels now, Scotland included.
We're ruled by Brussels now, Scotland included.
Sighs.....I do know that :mad:
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