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Boozeburglar
06-Jun-10, 11:44
There appears to be more ships still planning on challenging the illegal blockade of Gaza.
Yesterday's incident passed peacefully, but are we to continue with this adsurd spectacle of Israel 'deporting' people they have kidnapped, who had no intention of entering anywhere other than Gaza if it were not for Israel's illegal interference?
Time for us to send some rather well protected vessels I think. We have a pretty handy Navy, what if we were send a flotilla full of aid, armed to the teeth?
I won't be closing this thread, so if there are any updates on the murders on the Mavi Marmara I would be interested to hear what is thought.
Aye send in the navy to protect protect this shipping. The world sits by and condems israels criminal behaviour and yet lacks the guts to act against any of their aggressions, its shamefull!!!
Its one thing to storm on board a ship full of youngsters armed with plastic chairs and sticks lets see them try it with the Royal Navy.
Does anyone honestly believe that the UK will send ships to break this blockade?. Dream on.........
What happens to all the aid that is captured by the Israelis. I have heard that some, if it is on "permitted" list is allowed through, but what about the rest?
What a GREAT Idea, escalate things and Hello 3rd World War, BOOM !!!
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Boozeburglar
06-Jun-10, 16:10
I don't think they would even consider preventing a flotilla of Royal Navy vessels access.
It only takes one country to decide to protect its citizens going about legal humanitarian work, and the bullies will have to decide quickly how sustainable their position is.
I also don't see Israel's nuclear capability entering into it, they have that purely for deterrence.
Does anyone honestly believe that the UK will send ships to break this blockade?. Dream on.........
No there's not much Britain can do to protect the vessels.
But I know a man who can.
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=129275§ionid=351020101
There appears to be more ships still planning on challenging the illegal blockade of Gaza.
Yesterday's incident passed peacefully, but are we to continue with this adsurd spectacle of Israel 'deporting' people they have kidnapped, who had no intention of entering anywhere other than Gaza if it were not for Israel's illegal interference?
Time for us to send some rather well protected vessels I think. We have a pretty handy Navy, what if we were send a flotilla full of aid, armed to the teeth?
I won't be closing this thread, so if there are any updates on the murders on the Mavi Marmara I would be interested to hear what is thought.
yes kidnap someone steal there goods and then deport them! keeping there passport into the bargin. pretty bazare isnt it? Perhaps they need the passports for more murders of unarmed people?
The navy is commanded by americans and americansx are commanedd by israel. so looks like well have to leave it to the Turks and the Iranians
remember the spirit of humanity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ExwZAgBIM
Crackeday
06-Jun-10, 17:32
Ive never seen so much anti-israeli propoganda from Bin ladens 2 right hand men!!!!
Dont want to get involved with this nonsense again.
Isnt there anything else happening in the world? (outside of press tv obviously not!!!) :)
Ive never seen so much anti-israeli propoganda from Bin ladens 2 right hand men!!!!
Dont want to get involved with this nonsense again.
Isnt there anything else happening in the world? (outside of press tv obviously not!!!) :)
Nine people were murdered, twenty eight children lost their fathers.
At the time the only story Israel allowed to be told was theirs, they made sure that while the story was on the front pages no one else's side of the story was heard. Now evidence is emerging that the Israeli story was completely fabricated, that audio tape (http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/06/idf-releases-apparently-doctored-audio-press-reports-as-fact/) Israel released of supposed anti Semitic comments from the Mavi Marmara is fake. But of course that news isn't going to make the front pages.
I don't think they would even consider preventing a flotilla of Royal Navy vessels access.
It only takes one country to decide to protect its citizens going about legal humanitarian work, and the bullies will have to decide quickly how sustainable their position is.
I also don't see Israel's nuclear capability entering into it, they have that purely for deterrence.
I think you are totaly right BB they wouldnt mess with us. I also think that any government of ours no matter of what persusasion would have the balls to stand tall and do the right thing. Its a long time since i consumed anything imported from that nation. I would urge every single person to do the same.....boycot...
I think you are totaly right BB they wouldnt mess with us. I also think that any government of ours no matter of what persusasion would have the balls to stand tall and do the right thing. Its a long time since i consumed anything imported from that nation. I would urge every single person to do the same.....boycot...
Israeli bar codes have a 7 at the start then the first six digit number starts with 29.
Ive never seen so much anti-israeli propoganda from Bin ladens 2 right hand men!!!!
Dont want to get involved with this nonsense again.
Isnt there anything else happening in the world? (outside of press tv obviously not!!!) :)
If would care to study any independent media source (even Daily Mail) you will see that Israel has been universally condemned for its actions over Gaza.
I tend just to look for the words.....product of israel
I tend just to look for the words.....product of israel
That works as well.
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youre photo reminds us all that israel is a very great threast to the world. it has over 200 nuclear warheads, denies it has them, wont sign any treATIES ,wont have any inspectors in, shots women and children, steals humanitarian aid, murders civilians in ineternational waters, commits piracy, ignoress the UN
it is a very very gret threat t o us all
Its a long time since i consumed anything imported from that nation. I would urge every single person to do the same.....boycot...
Yes boycott, or better still impose sanctions. If that didn't make them change their tune, we and the USA could invade and change the regime.
Yes boycott, or better still impose sanctions. If that didn't make them change their tune, we and the USA could invade and change the regime.
I'd hold that as a last resort.
Not giving them $3 billion a year in military aid might be a good start.
I'd hold that as a last resort.
Not giving them $3 billion a year in military aid might be a good start.
true but i think we should take there weapons off them
true but i think we should take there weapons off them
They wouldn't give up their weapons without a fight and then more people would get killed, our soldiers and Israeli soldiers.
Force should always be reserved as a last resort.
They wouldn't give up their weapons without a fight and then more people would get killed, our soldiers and Israeli soldiers.
Force should always be reserved as a last resort.
you cant allow a true nmaniac tro keep acquiring more and more weapons
you cant allow a true nmaniac tro keep acquiring more and more weapons
Then we must try every avenue we possibly can to persuade them not to before even contemplating using military force. I know I get a lot of stick on this forum for being anti Israel but I don't want to see any of them die unnecessarily, they have mothers who love them too.
Then we must try every avenue we possibly can to persuade them not to before even contemplating using military force. I know I get a lot of stick on this forum for being anti Israel but I don't want to see any of them die unnecessarily, they have mothers who love them too.
i dont want to see them die either but allowing them to stock pile nuclear weapons is very very dangerous. they have not proving themselves to be rational but triggerhappy. and look how they abuse the Palestinians.
anyway yes furture aid boats should be escorted by naval warships into Palestine until the israel regime tows the line and complies with the international community
I think this rouge state is a good example of why secular democracy is the only way forwards. A religious base for democracy cant ever work because ultmatley which ever religion is in control will believe they are the the chosen pepole over all others. I dont believe zionisim or sharia or any of the others can or will offer equal representation to all their populations various beliefs. The core of all the ills in the middle east is israel. Only by sorting them out and the world will take a large step forwards towards trust and peace.
i dont want to see them die either but allowing them to stock pile nuclear weapons is very very dangerous. they have not proving themselves to be rational but triggerhappy. and look how they abuse the Palestinians.
anyway yes furture aid boats should be escorted by naval warships into Palestine until the israel regime tows the line and complies with the international community
Yes, Palestinians have their human rights which are being denied to them. We should be doing all we can to restore those rights to them but unfortunately our spineless politicians are more concerned with getting re-elected than human rights.
Any one with half an ounce of human decency should see that those aid boats should be escorted into Gaza. Anyone with half an ounce of human decency should see that the aid boats should not be necessary, Palestine is more than capable of existing without having to rely on charity if only they were given half a chance.
Now let me think is this the same Palestine governed by Hamas?
According to Amnesty International, under Hamas rule, newspapers have been closed down and journalists have been harassed. Fatah demonstrations have been forbidden or suppressed, as in the case of a large demonstration on the anniversary of Yasser Arafat's death, which resulted in the deaths of seven people, after protesters hurled stones at Hamas security forces.
Christians were also threatened and assaulted in the Gaza Strip. The owner of a Christian bookshop was abducted and murdered, and on 15 February 2008, the Christian Youth Organization's library in Gaza City was bombed. Hamas has used hospitals and other public buildings as staging grounds for attacks and retaliation, which has resulted in Fatah responding in kind.
Hamas and other Gazan militant groups continued to fire home made Qassam rockets from the Strip across the border into Israel. According to Israel, between the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip and the end of January 2008, 697 rockets and 822 mortar bombs were fired at Israeli towns. In response, Israel targeted home made Qassam launchers and military targets and on 19 September 2007, declared the Gaza Strip a hostile entity. In January 2008 the situation escalated; Israel curtailed travel from Gaza, the entry of goods, and cut fuel supplies to the Strip on 19 January 2008
So what!
Thats still no reason or justification to colectively punish an entire pepole by trapping them in a defacto concentration camp. Its not the women, kids old and young folk that are comitting these crimes its actvists of a political system.
Mulltipull wrongs dont make a right.
Now let me think is this the same Palestine governed by Hamas?
Not all of Palestine is governed by Hamas, they were democratically elected by the all the people of Palestine but lost the West Bank in an Israeli and American backed coup. Since then Palestinians in the West Bank have been forcefully ejected and their homes bulldozed to make way for Israeli settlements.
Your point is?
So what!
Thats still no reason or justification to colectively punish an entire pepole by trapping them in a defacto concentration camp. Its not the women, kids old and young folk that are comitting these crimes its actvists of a political system.
Mulltipull wrongs dont make a right.
So by that statement you are saying that hamas are committing humanitarian crimes?
lets not forget they did'nt come to power by a uprising or a coup they where democratically voted in by the Palestinian people.
Dont tell me what i am saying and be putting words in my mouth.
Its quite clear exactly what i said no more no less.
northener
06-Jun-10, 23:19
Then we must try every avenue we possibly can to persuade them not to before even contemplating using military force. I know I get a lot of stick on this forum for being anti Israel but I don't want to see any of them die unnecessarily, they have mothers who love them too.
I'll agree with you there Fred.
Miltary force against Israel will never work. They don't have a very good history of responding well to miltary pressure. Plus the shock waves throughout the region would probably create even more conflict and death.
Sanctions and hard political pressure are the way forward, but this can only work as long as those who are opposed to Israel existing as a sovereign state are treated the same and made to realise that negotiation and treaty are the only possible course of action.
I'll agree with you there Fred.
Miltary force against Israel will never work. They don't have a very good history of responding well to miltary pressure. Plus the shock waves throughout the region would probably create even more conflict and death.
Sanctions and hard political pressure are the way forward, but this can only work as long as those who are opposed to Israel existing as a sovereign state are treated the same and made to realise that negotiation and treaty are the only possible course of action.
Would banning them from the Eurovision be construed as sanctions?
northener
06-Jun-10, 23:36
Would banning them from the Eurovision be construed as sanctions?
It would be viewed as a blessing by the rest of us.....
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