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do these signs that have started polluting our lamp post encourage u to vote for that person or does it annoy u as much as it does me [evil] now they obviously pay someone to put them up so why do they not pay for them to come down [evil]
Invisible
19-Apr-10, 20:29
the election isn't fought on our lamp-posts. It annoys me too
DeHaviLand
19-Apr-10, 20:37
If it really annoys you, wait until 7days after the election. If they're still up, make an official complaint to the council and party headquarters. 7 days is the time allowed in law to remove them.
I remember a few years back, when the town hall in thurso was still doing coffee mornings, I was tying to a Lampost a sign advertising a Coffe Morning. I was approached by a councillor, who will remain nameless, who said I was damaging Street Furniture and unless I took down the poster he would have me arrested by the police.
Needless to say when he came round to my door the next year asking for my vote he got told No Way.
Amy-Winehouse
19-Apr-10, 21:16
I like when they come to your door with the leaflets & you meet them, look them straight in the eye, they hand you the leaflet & without taking your eyes off them & with the speed of an italian pickpocket , you hand them the leaflet straight back & say `No thankyou` I wont be voting for you :cool: The look of shock is what makes election campaigns fun .
John Thurso's lot have decided to place them on just about every lamp post available, maybe they're hoping for some sort of subliminal mind warp effect where we'll vote for John Thurso because his name is every where you look.
drive down George Street heading into Wick from Tescos and you'll see what i mean, i almost went into a John Thurso trance and crashed the car
John Thurso's lot have decided to place them on just about every lamp post available, maybe they're hoping for some sort of subliminal mind warp effect where we'll vote for John Thurso because his name is every where you look.
drive down George Street heading into Wick from Tescos and you'll see what i mean, i almost went into a John Thurso trance and crashed the car
I think that John Thurso changed his name so that every time you enter Thurso/read papers etc you see the name "Thurso"
His real name by all accounts is John " I only had to pay back £548.21 in overpayment of expenses, and please dont ask who contributes to my election campaign"
MusicWicker
19-Apr-10, 22:24
Are these political signs exempt from planning permission? I'm pretty sure that if they were to abide by the law they should be paying £160 per lampost for advertising consent. One rule for them and one rule for the rest of us. [evil]
If you dont like them, rip them down. As long as you deposit them in a bin and dont litter.;)
Are these political signs exempt from planning permission? I'm pretty sure that if they were to abide by the law they should be paying £160 per lampost for advertising consent. One rule for them and one rule for the rest of us. [evil]
Don't know about Scotland but in England they are, class E of schedule 1 of The Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) (England) Regulations 2007 exempts: "An advertisement relating specifically to a pending Parliamentary, European Parliamentary or local government election or a referendum under the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000(a)."
I would expect the law will be the same in Scotland.
I think that John Thurso changed his name so that every time you enter Thurso/read papers etc you see the name "Thurso"
perhaps we should have signs on the outskirts saying ' You are now entering John Thurso '
Creme_Egg
19-Apr-10, 23:26
Perhaps we should give everyone a lampost and put your opinion below the chosen party?
John Thurso's lot have decided to place them on just about every lamp post available, maybe they're hoping for some sort of subliminal mind warp effect where we'll vote for John Thurso because his name is every where you look.
drive down George Street heading into Wick from Tescos and you'll see what i mean, i almost went into a John Thurso trance and crashed the car
Just goes to show how hardl working John Thurso and his support is. Tells me vote for him if he works that hard and is that keen. Anyone seen a Torry poster, are standing, do they have a candidate. Which is better hard work and high profile or no profile at all. If not profile how would they be at Westminster?
perhaps we should have signs on the outskirts saying ' You are now entering John Thurso '
I have no desire to enter John Thurso, I'll vote for the guy but thats about it.
One of the blasted things for John MacKay was bouncing down the road in Wick and hit my car. Got a nice red scuff down the paintwork now, grrrrr.
MusicWicker
20-Apr-10, 16:52
Just goes to show how hardl working John Thurso and his support is. Tells me vote for him if he works that hard and is that keen. Anyone seen a Torry poster, are standing, do they have a candidate. Which is better hard work and high profile or no profile at all. If not profile how would they be at Westminster?
He gets numpties to put his signs up for him, that doesn't take hard work, just takes brainwashed followers that are willing to give up their time.
I've nothing against the guy personally but his signs are overkill, he's got 10 on one bridge alone!
Amy-Winehouse
20-Apr-10, 21:18
How do you stop the Icelandic Ash party`s ???
I think Ill vote for the Icelandic Ash Party at the forthcoming election, they have done more for Britains major immigration problems in 5 days Than Lhabour government have done in the last 10 years .
i will defo be going in to complain if they aint down....after the election
How do you stop the Icelandic Ash party`s ???
I think Ill vote for the Icelandic Ash Party at the forthcoming election, they have done more for Britains major immigration problems in 5 days Than Lhabour government have done in the last 10 years .
am i suffering from deja-vu ?
this is the same post as Octane's thread opener last night that has since mysteriously disappeared
it started off innocently enough, but no doubt ended up with someone being offended etc etc blah blah blah
Amy-Winehouse
21-Apr-10, 08:58
am i suffering from deja-vu ?
this is the same post as Octane's thread opener last night that has since mysteriously disappeared
it started off innocently enough, but no doubt ended up with someone being offended etc etc blah blah blah
Never seen it :eek: I wasnt on the night before but I found it amusing- maybe its in the joke section ?
How do you stop the Icelandic Ash party`s ???
I think Ill vote for the Icelandic Ash Party at the forthcoming election, they have done more for Britains major immigration problems in 5 days Than Lhabour government have done in the last 10 years .
Racist bigot
am i suffering from deja-vu ?
this is the same post as Octane's thread opener last night that has since mysteriously disappeared
it started off innocently enough, but no doubt ended up with someone being offended etc etc blah blah blah
Dissapeared Its still there.....clean yer blinkers...lol
His real name by all accounts is John " I only had to pay back £548.21 in overpayment of expenses, and please dont ask who contributes to my election campaign"
Thought I'd also seen this on the John Thurso's Whiskers thread:
#4 "Maybe he is trying to disguise himself so that we do not recognise him as the same MP who overclaimed on his expenses."
;)
Thought I'd also seen this on the John Thurso's Whiskers thread:
#4 "Maybe he is trying to disguise himself so that we do not recognise him as the same MP who overclaimed on his expenses."
;)
Post is relevant to both threads
Dog-eared
21-Apr-10, 15:48
I wouldn't vote for anyone who that finds it necessary, when unable to use the title "Lord Thurso", changed his name from John Sinclair to John Thurso. Still has that aristocratic ring to it , eh? :roll:
Post is relevant to both threads
Fair enough, you've got your own opinion on who to vote for, but just a bit surprised that you recommend us not to vote for him if one is against fox hunting, to whit your post on the Thread: Britain's first ever prime ministerial TV debate #20
'One person who wont be getting my vote though is John Thurso who votes on crucial issues without consulting his constituents.
I set out below a reply I received from His Lordship on the matter of his views on whether or not he would support Hilary Benn on repealing any attempt at re-introducing foxhunting.... So, if you are against foxhunting, and any other forms of killing wild animals for sport do not vote for John Thurso'
Just quizzical as the libdems are seemingly standing for policies you would support?:
Saying no to nuclear power
We want all the countries that have nuclear weapons to get rid of them. These are weapons that can kill millions of people and damage the world for ever.
We will get rid of the UK’s nuclear weapons if other countries get rid of theirs.
We will save money now by ordering fewer nuclear weapons.
Scrap the new Trident replacement project.
Cancel the last tranche of Eurofighter jets.
All other projects will come under scrutiny in a strategic defence review – including the aircraft carriers which they had previously agreed to guarantee.
Block new nuclear and coal power stations.
Personally - like your good self - I do not support Foxhunting (I'd just shoot the thing if it attacked my well-protected flock of hens) and I won't be voting Libdems, but seems IMO that ignoring important polices over one specific item is a wee bit unusual? :confused
Fair enough, you've got your own opinion on who to vote for, but just a bit surprised that you recommend us not to vote for him if one is against fox hunting,
Personally - like your good self - I do not support Foxhunting (I'd just shoot the thing if it attacked my well-protected flock of hens) and I won't be voting Libdems, but seems IMO that ignoring important polices over one specific item is a wee bit unusual?
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That is not the only reason I shall not be voting for ex Etonian Lord/Viscount/John Thurso/Sinclair.
In addition to thinking that, despite recent surge in popularity, a vote for Libdem is wasted vote, there are at least 540+ other reasons why I shall not be voting for him, and they are the pound notes he tried to claim off us.
To reinforce my belief, I then think about the £11.95 TV licence fee he wanted reimbursing for.
You can see more of Mr Thurso's expense claims, including claims of £400 per month for food at:
http://mpsallowances.parliament.uk/mpslordsandoffices/hocallowances/allowances-by-mp/john-thurso/
1. Remunerated directorships
Director of International Wine and Spirit Competition Ltd, Building 17, Dunsfold Park, Stovolds Hill, Cranleigh, Surrey, GU6 8TB; organisers annual wine and spirit competition.
Fee of £2,156.25 from IWSC. Hours: 5 hours. (Registered 24 September 2009)
Fee of £2156.25 received on 16 October 2009. Hours: 2 hrs. (Registered 11 November 2009)
2. Remunerated employment, office, profession etc
Received three bottles of wine from Marketforce, after addressing a conference. Their address: Blue Fin Building, 110 Southwark Street, London, SE1 0SU. Hours: 3 hours. Estimated value £25.00. (Registered 23 July 2009)
8. Land and Property
Moorland Estate and Hill Farm in Altnabraec, Caithness.
9. Registrable shareholdings
(a) Ulbster Holdings Ltd, which manages family properties and holds shares in family companies.
Walker Greenbank PLC, manufacturers of wallpaper and fabric; (2% of share capital is owned by Ulbster Holdings Ltd).
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?d=2010-04-12
John Thurso - Register history (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=11280) | MP's page (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/?pid=11280)
1. Remunerated directorships
Chairman of:
International Wine and Spirit Competition Ltd; organisers annual wine and spirit competition.
Ulbster Holdings Ltd.; manages family estates in Scotland.
Thurso Fisheries Ltd; manages family estates in Scotland.
Director of three wholly owned subsidiaries of Ulbster Holdings Ltd:
Ulbster Estates (Sporting) Ltd.
Lochdhu Hotels Ltd.
Sinclair Family Trust Ltd.
8. Land and Property
Estate in Caithness.
9. Registrable shareholdings
(a) Walker Greenbank PLC (2% of share capital is owned by Ulbster Holdings Ltd. which I own 100%).
(a) Ulbster Holdings Ltd (which owns 100% of Lochdhu Hotels Ltd., Ulbster Estates (Sporting) Ltd and Sinclair Family Trust Ltd.)
(a) Thurso Fisheries Ltd.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?d=2009-05-20#11280
With regards his activity at the Commons he has:
Has spoken in 24 debates (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?pid=11280&s=section%3Adebates+section%3Awhall+section%3Alord s+section%3Ani&pop=1) in the last year — average amongst MPs.
Has received answers to 32 written questions (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?pid=11280&s=section%3Awrans&pop=1) in the last year — average amongst MPs.
Is a member of 3 select committees (0 as chair).
Has voted in 61% of votes (http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?id=uk.org.publicwhip/member/1966&showall=yes#divisions) in parliament with this affiliation — below average amongst MPs. (From Public Whip)
People have made 2 annotations (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/comments/recent/?pid=11280) on this MP’s speeches — well below average amongst MPs.
This MP's speeches, in Hansard, are readable by an average 16–17 year old, going by the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch-Kincaid_Readability_Test) score.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/john_thurso/caithness,_sutherland_and_easter_ross#hansard
magtomich
21-Apr-10, 18:01
Vote for Anfield, you know it makes sense.:lol:
Having migrated from the socialist utopia of Merseyside where the workshy rule and gun crime is running at around 5 cases per day (according to the Liverpool Echo) there is no doubt that this country needs another Degsy Hatton type at the helm.
He would show these amateurs how to screw expenses. :lol:
Dissapeared Its still there.....clean yer blinkers...lol
it must be in my blind spot cos i can't see it anywhere .... gimme a link to prove i'm not part of some huge conspiracy !!
Personally - like your good self - I do not support Foxhunting (I'd just shoot the thing if it attacked my well-protected flock of hens) and I won't be voting Libdems, but seems IMO that ignoring important polices over one specific item is a wee bit unusual? :confused
I would have thought you would have liked John Thurso, his granddad was a great friend of Winston Churchill, it was he who planned the firebombing of Dresden.
That is not the only reason I shall not be voting for ex Etonian Lord/Viscount/John Thurso/Sinclair.
In addition to thinking that, despite recent surge in popularity, a vote for Libdem is wasted vote, there are at least 540+ other reasons why I shall not be voting for him, and they are the pound notes he tried to claim off us.
To reinforce my belief, I then think about the £11.95 TV licence fee he wanted reimbursing for.
You can see more of Mr Thurso's expense claims, including claims of £400 per month for food at:
http://mpsallowances.parliament.uk/mpslordsandoffices/hocallowances/allowances-by-mp/john-thurso/
1. Remunerated directorships
Director of International Wine and Spirit Competition Ltd, Building 17, Dunsfold Park, Stovolds Hill, Cranleigh, Surrey, GU6 8TB; organisers annual wine and spirit competition.
Fee of £2,156.25 from IWSC. Hours: 5 hours. (Registered 24 September 2009)
Fee of £2156.25 received on 16 October 2009. Hours: 2 hrs. (Registered 11 November 2009)
2. Remunerated employment, office, profession etc
Received three bottles of wine from Marketforce, after addressing a conference. Their address: Blue Fin Building, 110 Southwark Street, London, SE1 0SU. Hours: 3 hours. Estimated value £25.00. (Registered 23 July 2009)
8. Land and Property
Moorland Estate and Hill Farm in Altnabraec, Caithness.
9. Registrable shareholdings
(a) Ulbster Holdings Ltd, which manages family properties and holds shares in family companies.
Walker Greenbank PLC, manufacturers of wallpaper and fabric; (2% of share capital is owned by Ulbster Holdings Ltd).
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?d=2010-04-12
John Thurso - Register history (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=11280) | MP's page (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/?pid=11280)
1. Remunerated directorships
Chairman of:
International Wine and Spirit Competition Ltd; organisers annual wine and spirit competition.
Ulbster Holdings Ltd.; manages family estates in Scotland.
Thurso Fisheries Ltd; manages family estates in Scotland.
Director of three wholly owned subsidiaries of Ulbster Holdings Ltd:
Ulbster Estates (Sporting) Ltd.
Lochdhu Hotels Ltd.
Sinclair Family Trust Ltd.
8. Land and Property
Estate in Caithness.
9. Registrable shareholdings
(a) Walker Greenbank PLC (2% of share capital is owned by Ulbster Holdings Ltd. which I own 100%).
(a) Ulbster Holdings Ltd (which owns 100% of Lochdhu Hotels Ltd., Ulbster Estates (Sporting) Ltd and Sinclair Family Trust Ltd.)
(a) Thurso Fisheries Ltd.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?d=2009-05-20#11280
With regards his activity at the Commons he has:
Has spoken in 24 debates (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?pid=11280&s=section%3Adebates+section%3Awhall+section%3Alord s+section%3Ani&pop=1) in the last year — average amongst MPs.
Has received answers to 32 written questions (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?pid=11280&s=section%3Awrans&pop=1) in the last year — average amongst MPs.
Is a member of 3 select committees (0 as chair).
Has voted in 61% of votes (http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?id=uk.org.publicwhip/member/1966&showall=yes#divisions) in parliament with this affiliation — below average amongst MPs. (From Public Whip)
People have made 2 annotations (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/comments/recent/?pid=11280) on this MP’s speeches — well below average amongst MPs.
This MP's speeches, in Hansard, are readable by an average 16–17 year old, going by the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch-Kincaid_Readability_Test) score.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/john_thurso/caithness,_sutherland_and_easter_ross#hansard
I only arsked ;)
I would have thought you would have liked John Thurso, his granddad was a great friend of Winston Churchill, it was he who planned the firebombing of Dresden.
Gosh Fred, that makes a change, Dresden eh? wondered how you'd manage to wheedle that into a mention of John Thurso.. weird that..
Anyway, I liked Ilene Over who wrote that book on Mountain climbing in the Far East, she was the grand-nephew of Manual Labour, the Spanish racing driver, who was a great friend of Robert Oppenheimer who developed the Atomic bomb which ended the War in the East and saved c2,000,000 Allied lives.
He most likely knew Herr Hitler (you may not have heard of him; looked a bit like Charlie Chaplin), who, by the end of May 1941, had killed over 43,000 civilians (that's us by the way),by bombing and more than a million houses were destroyed or damaged in London alone.. But hey, what's that to do with the Libdems.. hmmm
Before I go, here's another one of Old Winston's sayings: "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result" - take that whichever way you want Fred .;)
He most likely knew Herr Hitler (you may not have heard of him; looked a bit like Charlie Chaplin), who, by the end of May 1941, had killed over 43,000 civilians (that's us by the way),by bombing and more than a million houses were destroyed or damaged in London alone.. But hey, what's that to do with the Libdems.. hmmm
Before I go, here's another one of Old Winston's sayings: "There is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result" - take that whichever way you want Fred .;)
Fred has never acknowledged the Blitz to the UK cities, in any of his posts, but why should he, he is so blinkered.
Gosh Fred, that makes a change, Dresden eh? wondered how you'd manage to wheedle that into a mention of John Thurso.. weird that..
Well I thought it might change your mind about not voting for him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Sinclair,_1st_Viscount_Thurso
Well I thought it might change your mind about not voting for him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Sinclair,_1st_Viscount_Thurso
Now thats what you call a famous Caithnessian, Weel Done Sir Archie !!!
Thanks Fred.
Well I thought it might change your mind about not voting for him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Sinclair,_1st_Viscount_Thurso
I fully agree with you Golach, now that's a Man!
Although don't really understand why Fred's pointed us in the direction of this in the link?:
"He was handsome and charming and regarded as a daredevil, but in private life was rather shy, reserved and antisocial, with a slight speech impediment"
Hmm might change me mind about voting for Lord Thurso, but then again he supports fox-hunting, so I'll defer..
Oh PS Re Golachs: "Fred has never acknowledged the Blitz to the UK cities, in any of his posts, but why should he, he is so blinkered"
Go on Fred, be a devil, tell us, oh go on, go on ;)
Vote for Anfield, you know it makes sense.:lol:
Having migrated from the socialist utopia of Merseyside where the workshy rule and gun crime is running at around 5 cases per day (according to the Liverpool Echo) there is no doubt that this country needs another Degsy Hatton type at the helm.
He would show these amateurs how to screw expenses. :lol:
Are you Sam Tyler (Life on Mars - TV Programme) in disguise, as like you he was in a coma for 25 years.
Liverpool has been under the control of Liberal Democrats for past 12 years.
Finally, I like a bet so I will offer you this one:
Post a link which confirms that "gun crime is running at around 5 cases per day (according to the Liverpool Echo" and I will donate a tenner to Thurso's campaign fund (saving having to cadge off his mates)
Fail to post a link, and you pay £10 to a charity of your choice.
Then, we will double or quits on any links confirming that Derek Hatton ever defrauded Liverpool City Council
So lets see if you can put your money where your mouth is.
I fully agree with you Golach, now that's a Man!
Although don't really understand why Fred's pointed us in the direction of this in the link?:
"He was handsome and charming and regarded as a daredevil, but in private life was rather shy, reserved and antisocial, with a slight speech impediment"
Hmm might change me mind about voting for Lord Thurso, but then again he supports fox-hunting, so I'll defer..
Oh PS Re Golachs: "Fred has never acknowledged the Blitz to the UK cities, in any of his posts, but why should he, he is so blinkered"
Go on Fred, be a devil, tell us, oh go on, go on ;)
What on earth are you talking about now?
Why do you have to turn every thread into personal abuse and character assassination?
Grow up can't you.
What on earth are you talking about now?
Why do you have to turn every thread into personal abuse and character assassination? Grow up can't you.
Fred, you've certainly got a short memory, don't you remember in your post #34 above you gave me this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archiba...iscount_Thurso (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Sinclair,_1st_Viscount_Thurso) now, if YOU read it, you'll see that what I posted was within this link, so really, what is your problem?
So, to paraphrase; you give me link. I look and post a section from it. You then say I'm being 'abusive and assassinating your character' - if you're going to be like this, might be best in future not to post, eh?
Oh my God, I've just had a thought, surely you don't think that extract was about YOU?! Ref your ('Why do you have to turn every thread into personal abuse and character assassination?')..
No way Fred, IF you had bothered to to read all of your link you'll see ( just before my extract) "Sinclair was one of the largest landowners in the United Kingdom, owning an estate of about 100,000 acres in Caithness."
My oh my, well I never.. (you can apologise now if you like) ;)
Amy-Winehouse
21-Apr-10, 22:00
I wouldn't vote for anyone who that finds it necessary, when unable to use the title "Lord Thurso", changed his name from John Sinclair to John Thurso. Still has that aristocratic ring to it , eh? :roll:
Thats what I have said for years, Why ?? Thurso??
Oh dear he ain't that clean after all: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8636311.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8636311.stm)
Oh my God, I've just had a thought, surely you don't think that extract was about YOU?! Ref your ('Why do you have to turn every thread into personal abuse and character assassination?')..
No way Fred, IF you had bothered to to read all of your link you'll see ( just before my extract) "Sinclair was one of the largest landowners in the United Kingdom, owning an estate of about 100,000 acres in Caithness."
My oh my, well I never.. (you can apologise now if you like) ;)
Didn't you say:
Oh PS Re Golachs: "Fred has never acknowledged the Blitz to the UK cities, in any of his posts, but why should he, he is so blinkered"
Go on Fred, be a devil, tell us, oh go on, go on
So why the personal attacks?
I knew from your other posts you were a fan of Churchill's and you were in favour of the bombing of Dresden so I was surprised you were not in favour of John Thurso who's grandfather was a friend of Churchill and planned the bombing of Dresden. Relevant in a discussion about John Thurso.
You and your org bully pal respond with an off topic personal attack about the Blitz.
Very few of the posters to this forum have ever acknowledged the Blitz.
Being new to the forum I do not want to intrude on a personal discussion about John Thurso (I take it he is the local MP ?).
Anyway I doubt if he can take any credit for whatever his grandfather may have done in the past, however noble.
Being new to the forum I do not want to intrude on a personal discussion about John Thurso (I take it he is the local MP ?).
Anyway I doubt if he can take any credit for whatever his grandfather may have done in the past, however noble.
You are right, we must not judge a person on what their parents or grand parents do. Many people rebel against their parents, if not most.
Unfortunately all too often it does happen, especially on the org.
Oh dear he ain't that clean after all: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8636311.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8636311.stm)
but then out of all of them who is whiter than white ? .... Tommy Sheridan perhaps ? :lol:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41956000/jpg/_41956870_legateam_pa416.jpg
poor old Tommy, the perma tanned silverback, i followed him through Glasgow years ago against the Criminal Justice Bill, he's a great speaker, but i can't take him seriously when he claims to fight for the common man while looking like Dale Winton's lang last brither
an here's his missus ... :eek:
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Jan/Week4/15211419.jpg
Aaldtimer
22-Apr-10, 04:34
And?:confused
Amy-Winehouse
22-Apr-10, 08:17
an here's his missus ... :eek:
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Jan/Week4/15211419.jpg
Mr & Mrs Tango- how did their perjury case go against the NOTW ?
Didn't you say: So why the personal attacks?
I knew from your other posts you were a fan of Churchill's and you were in favour of the bombing of Dresden so I was surprised you were not in favour of John Thurso who's grandfather was a friend of Churchill and planned the bombing of Dresden. Relevant in a discussion about John Thurso. You and your org bully pal respond with an off topic personal attack about the Blitz. Very few of the posters to this forum have ever acknowledged the Blitz.
Churchill? yes I admire him, don't you remember?: "Sir Winston Churchill has been named the greatest Briton of all time in a nationwide poll attracting more than a million votes".
Oh I see.. I wondered why you had not commented on Golach's post (#33: Fred has never acknowledged the Blitz to the UK cities, in any of his posts, but why should he, he is so blinkered.) you've not got him on 'Ignore' have you?
Anyway it looks like Rich asked this on 12-Apr-10, 14:26 (Rich) "Fred, you are a glutton for punishment. But let's get this clear. Are you saying the London Blitz never happened?" fair enough to ask as well - can't quite remember if you said yes or no..
In 1945 the Geneva Convention did not prohibit the general bombing of a town to destroy its industrial capacity..'The bombing of an industrialized town from the air in an attempt to destroy its industry or cause such loss of morale amongst its inhabitants that they ceased to work' was NOT a crime by the Rules of War in 1945.
a) The Russians asked at the Yalta conference in February 1945. in which General Antonov has stated "We want the Dresden railway junction bombed".
b). Marshall Koniev`s left flank was attacked as a base of operation, as he advanced into Germany. German High Command documents from Berlin in 1945 state that "Dresden is to be fortified as a military strongpoint, to be held at all costs." .
c) Munitions were stored at the old Dresden Arsenal.
d) Some 28 Troop Trains of Troop reinforcement were marshalled through Dresden every day towards the Eastern Front.
e). Dresden was a Communications centre. Majority of communication cables to connect the Eastern Front to High Command went through the town.
f) There were 127 factories in the Dresden Municipal area. Zeiss was turning out Bomb aiming apparatus and Time fuses. The Waffle and Marzipan machine manufacturer was producing torpedoes for the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe. The arts and crafts workshops in the old town were using their woodworking skills to make the tail assemblies for V-1s.
So yes, Fred it was a a legitimate target..
"So why the personal attacks?" you ask..
Oh dear me Fred, you do continually go on with these accusations.. this is robust discussion, it's the cut and thrust, the parry, the repartee of a typical forum.. I'm not saying you are whining, but spent a few minutes going back just a month - to see if you've mentioned Bullying before. Oh yes seems you have.. ;)
21-Apr-10, 23:09 You and your org bully pal respond with an off topic personal attack
19-Apr-10, 11:38 I wouldn't want to be forcing people to believe what I wanted them to believe by bullying, .
19-Apr-10, 09:59 it is org bullying. .
22-Mar-10, 10:37 I made, that is just bullying.
21-Mar-10, 16:39 that is just bullying, the exact sort of bullying this thread is all about.
21-Mar-10, 14:16 . It's still bullying and bullying is never much fun for the victim.
17-Mar-10, 23:15 The org bullies strike again..
17-Mar-10, 01:23 Those who are allowed to air them without getting shouted down by the org bullies.
17-Mar-10, 00:29 I'm the one getting personal abuse hurled at him every day by the org bullies but it's all my fault.
16-Mar-10, 23:28 I thought you were sick so why do you and your org bully mates insist on replying to everything I say with personal abuse? don't try to bully me out of saying them
16-Mar-10, 23:16 Yes you are a bully, , you just try to bully your warped views onto others.
16-Mar-10, 23:28 How come I can't post anything to this forum without the org bullies replying with personal abuse? .
16-Mar-10, 22:17 That's how the org bullies work, no facts, no truth, just abuse insults and intimidation.
16-Mar-10, 22:07 Once again the org bullies just resort to personal insults and add nothing to the debate.
16-Mar-10, 17:44 Torturers paedophiles and the org bullies...what a combination.
16-Mar-10, 00:25 be allowed to discuss it in peace without being hounded by the org bullies.
16-Mar-10, 00:14 Once again the org bullies are just shouting down those who do not agree with them.
12-Mar-10, 10:13 I said anyone who makes personal attacks against me instead of discussing the issues is a bully
12-Mar-10, 09:37 whenever I raise important issues about world events the org bullies immediately try to turn the thread around
09-Mar-10, 00:29 I'm getting a bit sick of not being able to discus the things which interest me with other orgers without being subjected to personal character attacks from the org bullies.
06-Mar-10, 15:28 a thread without being insulted by the org bullies?
Churchill? yes I admire him, don't you remember?: "Sir Winston Churchill has been named the greatest Briton of all time in a nationwide poll attracting more than a million votes".
Oh I see.. I wondered why you had not commented on Golach's post (#33: Fred has never acknowledged the Blitz to the UK cities, in any of his posts, but why should he, he is so blinkered.) you've not got him on 'Ignore' have you?
Anyway it looks like Rich asked this on 12-Apr-10, 14:26 (Rich) "Fred, you are a glutton for punishment. But let's get this clear. Are you saying the London Blitz never happened?" fair enough to ask as well - can't quite remember if you said yes or no..
In 1945 the Geneva Convention did not prohibit the general bombing of a town to destroy its industrial capacity..'The bombing of an industrialized town from the air in an attempt to destroy its industry or cause such loss of morale amongst its inhabitants that they ceased to work' was NOT a crime by the Rules of War in 1945.
a) The Russians asked at the Yalta conference in February 1945. in which General Antonov has stated "We want the Dresden railway junction bombed".
b). Marshall Koniev`s left flank was attacked as a base of operation, as he advanced into Germany. German High Command documents from Berlin in 1945 state that "Dresden is to be fortified as a military strongpoint, to be held at all costs." .
c) Munitions were stored at the old Dresden Arsenal.
d) Some 28 Troop Trains of Troop reinforcement were marshalled through Dresden every day towards the Eastern Front.
e). Dresden was a Communications centre. Majority of communication cables to connect the Eastern Front to High Command went through the town.
f) There were 127 factories in the Dresden Municipal area. Zeiss was turning out Bomb aiming apparatus and Time fuses. The Waffle and Marzipan machine manufacturer was producing torpedoes for the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe. The arts and crafts workshops in the old town were using their woodworking skills to make the tail assemblies for V-1s.
So yes, Fred it was a a legitimate target..
"So why the personal attacks?" you ask..
Oh dear me Fred, you do continually go on with these accusations.. this is robust discussion, it's the cut and thrust, the parry, the repartee of a typical forum.. I'm not saying you are whining, but spent a few minutes going back just a month - to see if you've mentioned Bullying before. Oh yes seems you have.. ;)
21-Apr-10, 23:09 You and your org bully pal respond with an off topic personal attack
19-Apr-10, 11:38 I wouldn't want to be forcing people to believe what I wanted them to believe by bullying, .
19-Apr-10, 09:59 it is org bullying. .
22-Mar-10, 10:37 I made, that is just bullying.
21-Mar-10, 16:39 that is just bullying, the exact sort of bullying this thread is all about.
21-Mar-10, 14:16 . It's still bullying and bullying is never much fun for the victim.
17-Mar-10, 23:15 The org bullies strike again..
17-Mar-10, 01:23 Those who are allowed to air them without getting shouted down by the org bullies.
17-Mar-10, 00:29 I'm the one getting personal abuse hurled at him every day by the org bullies but it's all my fault.
16-Mar-10, 23:28 I thought you were sick so why do you and your org bully mates insist on replying to everything I say with personal abuse? don't try to bully me out of saying them
16-Mar-10, 23:16 Yes you are a bully, , you just try to bully your warped views onto others.
16-Mar-10, 23:28 How come I can't post anything to this forum without the org bullies replying with personal abuse? .
16-Mar-10, 22:17 That's how the org bullies work, no facts, no truth, just abuse insults and intimidation.
16-Mar-10, 22:07 Once again the org bullies just resort to personal insults and add nothing to the debate.
16-Mar-10, 17:44 Torturers paedophiles and the org bullies...what a combination.
16-Mar-10, 00:25 be allowed to discuss it in peace without being hounded by the org bullies.
16-Mar-10, 00:14 Once again the org bullies are just shouting down those who do not agree with them.
12-Mar-10, 10:13 I said anyone who makes personal attacks against me instead of discussing the issues is a bully
12-Mar-10, 09:37 whenever I raise important issues about world events the org bullies immediately try to turn the thread around
09-Mar-10, 00:29 I'm getting a bit sick of not being able to discus the things which interest me with other orgers without being subjected to personal character attacks from the org bullies.
06-Mar-10, 15:28 a thread without being insulted by the org bullies?
So can't you get it into your head that this is a forum for exchanging ideas and information and discussing it not for making abusive remarks about other users? Watching people calling other users names makes a forum an unpleasant place, I recently saw you calling another user a liar.
And can't you get it into your head that others have brains capable of more than binary thinking, your "either with us or against us" mentality is not shared by everyone. Because someone is against the killing of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan it does not make them a terrorist sympathizer, because someone is against the killing of innocent civilians in Germany it does not make them a Nazi, because someone is against the killing of innocent civilians in Palestine it does not make them anti-Semite.
This is a strange forum, the heading says "Election Campaign Signs" but a couple of pages in its all about bombing some place and a plug for a car insurance outfit, plus some fella thinking he is being bullied.:confused
We dont have anything this funny back on Merseyside.:lol:
This is a strange forum, the heading says "Election Campaign Signs" but a couple of pages in its all about bombing some place and a plug for a car insurance outfit, plus some fella thinking he is being bullied.:confused
We dont have anything this funny back on Merseyside.:lol:
You'll get used to it, there's many a thread where it's worth looking at #1 and then again at the last one, quite often they are completely different!
I don't detect a sock puppet do I? ;)
I don't detect a sock puppet do I? ;)
Welcome to the org Andfield, everyone now thinks you are another user posting under a different account.
About the only rule here is that you have to agree with the clique and their right wing views or you get a load of personal abuse thrown at you.
The Drunken Duck
22-Apr-10, 11:34
So anyway, about these Election signs .. :D
I had a few beers last night and "adjusted" one on a lampost near me. Who knew the "Limp Dems" had a candidate standing in my area ??
Instead of getting angry about them I am using them to my advantage because as much as these parasites want our vote now come May 7th they will forget about as quick smart until the next time.
So I say have your fun while you can.
Thats what I have said for years, Why ?? Thurso??
Just think of the rhyming implications if he changed his name to John Wick. Could you imagine the graffitti in the House of Commons toilets:
So can't you get it into your head that this is a forum for exchanging ideas and information and discussing it not for making abusive remarks about other users? Watching people calling other users names makes a forum an unpleasant place, I recently saw you calling another user a liar.
And can't you get it into your head that others have brains capable of more than binary thinking, your "either with us or against us" mentality is not shared by everyone. Because someone is against the killing of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan it does not make them a terrorist sympathizer, because someone is against the killing of innocent civilians in Germany it does not make them a Nazi, because someone is against the killing of innocent civilians in Palestine it does not make them anti-Semite.
Just come in from shopping in Wick..
What abusive remarks fred? - as you know, I posted a list of 'abusive remarks' and they weren't mine, now where are they?.
So you recently 'saw' me calling another user a liar. Presumably you mean this one on the Thread: 10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists #82 "Blinking Hell Anfield - you don't half tell some porkies. the lies must be queuing up behind your teeth".
This is simply robust posting Fred, and shortly thereafter Anfield was graciously and honest enough to apologise - which I of course accepted, I would, without doubt apologise to him in similar circumstances. I do not agree with Anfield 99% of the time, but this is the way of the Org, we have vigorous and heated exchanges, but I'm sure he's not a bad bloke underneath, as is myself.
This is a forum Fred, it is NOT real life.
You mention Binary Thinking: 'a person who sees no grey, no fuzziness between categories. Everything is black or white' - Well if I've ever seen an example of the pot calling the kettle black this is it!
No Fred, I don't think you're a terrorist sympathizer, I don't think you're a Nazi and I don't think you're anti-Semite - Although I find this last one a trifle strange, since Arabs are Semites, would you call Mahmoud Ahmadinejad an "anti-Semite"?
So lets hope this is the last of this hyperbole, and get onto dealing with this Thread.. I notice for the first time that the SNP have not affixed one of their sighns to the Caithness/Sutherland border post - last time it was there for three months after the election - not knocking the SNP, I voted for em last time. ;)
Welcome to the org Andfield, everyone now thinks you are another user posting under a different account. About the only rule here is that you have to agree with the clique and their right wing views or you get a load of personal abuse thrown at you.
Oh my Goodness!! just checked again and here's Fred moaning about 'right wing views' and 'throwing personal abuse'.. Oh Fred, please calm down it's not personal you know, I don't know you, I have no idea if you are a man or a woman, no idea of you're very old or very young - you see it's all in Cyber Space this is.. (really) IT'S NOT REAL. :confused
I won't bother continuing (collective sigh of relief)..
Tom Cornwall
22-Apr-10, 19:28
Just goes to show how hardl working John Thurso and his support is. Tells me vote for him if he works that hard and is that keen. Anyone seen a Torry poster, are standing, do they have a candidate. Which is better hard work and high profile or no profile at all. If not profile how would they be at Westminster?
talking about Tory posters....Best David Cameron Poster EVER! http://bit.ly/9XDkcR
Vote for Anfield, you know it makes sense.
Having migrated from the socialist utopia of Merseyside where the workshy rule and gun crime is running at around 5 cases per day (according to the Liverpool Echo) there is no doubt that this country needs another Degsy Hatton type at the helm.
He would show these amateurs how to screw expenses.
Are you Sam Tyler (Life on Mars - TV Programme) in disguise, as like you he was in a coma for 25 years.
Liverpool has been under the control of Liberal Democrats for past 12 years.
Finally, I like a bet so I will offer you this one:
Post a link which confirms that "gun crime is running at around 5 cases per day (according to the Liverpool Echo" and I will donate a tenner to Thurso's campaign fund (saving having to cadge off his mates)
Fail to post a link, and you pay £10 to a charity of your choice.
Then, we will double or quits on any links confirming that Derek Hatton ever defrauded Liverpool City Council
So lets see if you can put your money where your mouth is.
Magtomich
Two days now since I asked you to put up or shut up.
I take it that I shall not have to donate £10 to the John Thurso campaign fund, and look forward to hearing which charity has benefited from your £20 donation.
Magtomich
Two days now since I asked you to put up or shut up.
I take it that I shall not have to donate £10 to the John Thurso campaign fund, and look forward to hearing which charity has benefited from your £20 donation.
I think he's on about this, not quite correct:
'Last week saw five gun attacks in as many days... In 2007/08, there had been 130 shooting incidents and 141 in 06/07'
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2010/04/21/tit-for-tat-fall-outs-blamed-as-shootings-rise-on-merseyside-100252-26284776/
Boozeburglar
23-Apr-10, 13:29
What I find absurd are the placards I saw in some gardens lately stating "Liberal Democrats are winning in this area", or something to that effect.
What point is there in that? Such things are based on polls alone; and would that really encourage others to follow suit?
I was happy to see Glenda Jackson's name as always up. Big respect for her.
Our Labour MP is Karen Buck, and she is very popular here so I have my fingers crossed for her.
Cannot stand all the negative campaigning posters around London dissing my man Brown.
Stinks.
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