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Creme_Egg
10-Apr-10, 21:13
Would any of the Orgers/locals pick up a hitch-hiker wanting to go your way?.....I wouldn't i'm not sure if its a arrogant thing to do/not do

bobbyrussell09
10-Apr-10, 21:22
if i could drive i sure wouldnt,more chance of me showing them the thumb as i drive past lol

Dadie
10-Apr-10, 21:25
I used to feel sorry for an oldish man hitching regulary on the Thurso/Watten/Wick road and picked him up a few times when the weather was really bad.
Then he was getting dangerous by reconising the car and stepping out in the road.....by which time I couldnt take him anyway as the kids took up all the seats in the wee car!
I dont pick anyone up now!

Kenn
10-Apr-10, 22:21
Very rarely, last time was when we found a young girl on the road between Forsinard and Kinbrace and we're concerned to see her so far from any where late in the afternoon on a not too warm day.
She turned out to be a foreign student and had n't realised how far it was to Helmsdale so we took her as far as we could.
If my husband had been on his own he would have thought twice about stopping although he would still have been concerned.

trix
10-Apr-10, 23:15
i wid....as soon as ma faither buys me a car.

"soon" he says.....but when dad, when??

:Razz

Bobbin
10-Apr-10, 23:23
I love picking up hitchhikers, it's great to meet new folk and get the crack with them. I've never picked up anyone yet and thought they were dodgy.

fred
10-Apr-10, 23:41
Would any of the Orgers/locals pick up a hitch-hiker wanting to go your way?.....I wouldn't i'm not sure if its a arrogant thing to do/not do

Yes, if someone needs a lift and I'm going their way I'll give them a lift, don't see any reason not to.

trix
10-Apr-10, 23:46
Yes, if someone needs a lift and I'm going their way I'll give them a lift, don't see any reason not to.

eh...incase they are mass maniac murderin killer psychopaths?? :eek:

riggerboy
11-Apr-10, 07:48
eh...incase they are mass maniac murderin killer psychopaths?? :eek:

what you mean like the driver,

here trix`s faither dinna go gettin her a car e road is dangerous enough

fred
11-Apr-10, 08:20
eh...incase they are mass maniac murderin killer psychopaths?? :eek:

Taxi drivers spend their working lives picking people up and driving them somewhere, bus drivers will pick up a dozen at a time. I don't see how it can be all that dangerous.

porshiepoo
11-Apr-10, 08:27
Taxi drivers spend their working lives picking people up and driving them somewhere, bus drivers will pick up a dozen at a time. I don't see how it can be all that dangerous.

Huge massive ginormous difference between taxis, buses and hitchhikers.

The danger levels of picking up a stranger when in your car alone with no one aware of where you are until its too late are so much higher than taxis or buses.
Ever watched Hitcher? Say no more!

My hubby would pick hitchers up but I wouldn't whether they were male, female, alone or as a pair.
I'd feel sorry for them as I whizz on by but I wouldn't stop. Nope, no way!

I saw a lone female trying to hitch south from Wick the other day. Bizarre! No matter what country they come from surely they are aware of the dangers of hitching alone in a foreign country?

John Little
11-Apr-10, 08:31
Here's a link to a google search then.

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=taxi+drivers+murdered&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=14f15d9c571224c3

John Little
11-Apr-10, 08:37
Recorded crime statistics for the West Midlands point to a staggering five-fold increase in violent attacks on taxi drivers since 2000. Over this period criminal damage soared from 76 to 362 incidents.
Last year cabbies in the region have suffered 23 robberies, 79 thefts, 113 incidents of criminal damage and 70 attacks on drivers.
Change for 2010
Feedback from taxi driver and operator associations up and down the UK shows that the Midland’s figures are far from being an isolated trend. It begs the question, when, oh when, will the authorities do something drastic to tackle this continuing wave of violence against Britain’s hard working cabbies?
One thing is sure. If more proactive protection for taxi drivers isn't brought in quickly, it is inevitable that more taxi drivers will fall victim to mindless violence in 2010.


S'not hard to find...


Bus drivers - one example of many;

More than 20 drivers at the Brighton & Hove Bus Company have been assaulted by members of the public while at work over the last year. Recent evidence shows that this situation is only getting worse.
These attacks have ranged from being punched and kicked to being threatened with knives, and come on top of the daily verbal abuse that our drivers endure.
Only last week the GMB union was told of three assaults taking place, the most despicable of which involved urine being thrown at a driver.

fred
11-Apr-10, 08:48
Ever watched Hitcher? Say no more!


I watched Psycho too but I wouldn't let it stop me from taking a shower.

fred
11-Apr-10, 08:53
Here's a link to a google search then.

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=taxi+drivers+murdered&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=14f15d9c571224c3

Well now I'm starting to wonder just why every taxi driver in Caithness isn't covered in bruises.

ducati
11-Apr-10, 08:57
I used to always pick up service people. Leaves are too short to spend travelling. You don't see them hitching very often these days though. Pehaps the MOD have got their act together

ducati
11-Apr-10, 08:58
I watched Psycho too but I wouldn't let it stop me from taking a shower.

I've not had a shower since :eek:

upolian
11-Apr-10, 10:29
Would any of the Orgers/locals pick up a hitch-hiker wanting to go your way?.....I wouldn't i'm not sure if its a arrogant thing to do/not do


You coulda picked me up lastnight lad[lol] half price taxi[lol][lol]

Sage
11-Apr-10, 11:21
years and years ago my Mum & I picked up a lad walking the Whitby Moors road. It's a hell of a way to walk and he turned out to be an archaeology student who didnt realise that what looked relatively short on the map was in reality a long and lonely road.

He told us some fab stories as we travelled along and was lovely.

However I wouldnt do it if I was on my own....we did stop to think later that he could have been a crazed axe-murderer....or a politician [lol]

wicker8
11-Apr-10, 11:58
well i would pick up a hitchhiker but on another point what if the driver was a mad serial killerthe hitchhiker also has to consider that two way to look at this story

donnick
11-Apr-10, 12:11
i have picked up hitch hikers there was 3 of us in the car and it was 2 italians luckily we picked them up as they were dieing for a wee i think they got the raw end of the stick they had no idea what they wur getting it to the caithness banter but they must have enjoyed themselves as they said they might see us in town later ....:lol:

fred
11-Apr-10, 12:13
Recorded crime statistics for the West Midlands point to a staggering five-fold increase in violent attacks on taxi drivers since 2000.

Well what do you expect when we bring our kids up telling them they live in a hostile environment where every adult is probably an axe murderer out to get them. It's no wonder there is so much anti social behaviour about when kids are taught that society is their enemy.

northener
11-Apr-10, 12:15
I'll happily pick anyone up who's hitching if they're out in there middle of nowhere. I'm a great believer in 'what goes around comes around'.

Speaking with my taxi drivers head on, there are very few serious incidents up here, apart from the odd tightarse getting in the cab and then having the bloody cheek to whinge about the price once they've got to their destination, I've never really had a problem with anyone.

Well apart from one ignorant arse who was drunk and kept threatening to pull the handbrake on in deep snow....soon changed his mind when I slammed the anchors on and threatened to hammer him if he opened his gob once more.

You know who you are, Mr 'bad ass' biker boy.;)

pat
11-Apr-10, 12:18
Last time picked up hitchhikers was outside Ullapool at the end of February - ferry had not run for 2 days due to road Ullapool/Inverness being blocked.
Picked them up, they were Spanish and going to Inverness airport to hire car and meet parents who were arriving on holiday. No buses were running at that time, they had no option but to hitch.
They were extremely nice folk who were over here working in Ullapool area.
If room in car and they pass my "gut instinct" will pick anyone up.
Will pick up more hitchers on the island here due to the lack of transport - will stop for most walkers unless they are equipped for hiking.

Only bother - oh picked up a Wicker around Perth, aroma off this person was extremely high, could not even say stopping somewhere as person would have waited - windows open and foot down until passenger safely deposited in Wick. Windows left open all night to try to eradicate aroma, eventually resorted to sprays.

Service personnel not allowed to hitch in uniform or carrying any service kit.
Often stop for the folk with trade plates too.

Tighsonas4
11-Apr-10, 12:45
[quote=trix;689367]i wid....as soon as ma faither buys me a car.

"soon" he says.....but when dad, when??

:Razz[/quote

mind an let me ken when e get it as i will need till wear my glasses [lol] [lol] tony

Through
11-Apr-10, 14:06
I do, but only when no other family members are in the car. I'll take the chance myself, but I won't take a chance with my family.

Kevin Milkins
11-Apr-10, 14:18
I used to enjoy hitch hiking and have met some really interesting people that have stopped to give me a lift.
I will pick up hitch hikers only if it is safe to pull over, and as Pat has already said, it is usually a gut instinct that will avoid the baddies.

northener
11-Apr-10, 16:19
My brother in law is an Evangelical lay preacher. He really enjoys picking people up as he's then got a captive audience.

He always says that you should see the look on the hikers face when after a mile or so of the usual polite pleasantries, he turns to the hiker and says:

"So, have you met my friend Jesus? No? Then I'll tell you all about him...."

[lol]

John Little
11-Apr-10, 17:51
"Taxi drivers spend their working lives picking people up and driving them somewhere, bus drivers will pick up a dozen at a time. I don't see how it can be all that dangerous."

"Well now I'm starting to wonder just why every taxi driver in Caithness isn't covered in bruises. "

Caithness is not the world Fred. Nor did you specify Caithness in your original post. I then provide you with samples of evidence that is readily available and you say this;

"Well what do you expect when we bring our kids up telling them they live in a hostile environment where every adult is probably an axe murderer out to get them. It's no wonder there is so much anti social behaviour about when kids are taught that society is their enemy."

It appears that there are some forms of evidence that you are all too ready to concentrate on and others that you are content to ignore.

I fear you have led a sheltered life, for whilst it is true that Caithness has no large metropolitan centres where these things happen, I do assure you that in the wider world they do. Whilst I am glad that you personally have had no experience of these things it does not alter the very real fact that to be a bus driver or cabbie in Glasgow or London or many of our provincial towns and cities is quite a hazardous job.

bekisman
11-Apr-10, 17:57
Taxi drivers spend their working lives picking people up and driving them somewhere, bus drivers will pick up a dozen at a time. I don't see how it can be all that dangerous.

Oh but it can be Fred;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1584978/Bride-for-Peace-hitch-hiker-artist-murdered.html

John Little
11-Apr-10, 18:25
Now look! me and the wife are going out for an Indian meal so you'll just have to wait!!!

fred
11-Apr-10, 18:33
"Taxi drivers spend their working lives picking people up and driving them somewhere, bus drivers will pick up a dozen at a time. I don't see how it can be all that dangerous."

"Well now I'm starting to wonder just why every taxi driver in Caithness isn't covered in bruises. "

Caithness is not the world Fred. Nor did you specify Caithness in your original post. I then provide you with samples of evidence that is readily available and you say this;

"Well what do you expect when we bring our kids up telling them they live in a hostile environment where every adult is probably an axe murderer out to get them. It's no wonder there is so much anti social behaviour about when kids are taught that society is their enemy."

It appears that there are some forms of evidence that you are all too ready to concentrate on and others that you are content to ignore.

I fear you have led a sheltered life, for whilst it is true that Caithness has no large metropolitan centres where these things happen, I do assure you that in the wider world they do. Whilst I am glad that you personally have had no experience of these things it does not alter the very real fact that to be a bus driver or cabbie in Glasgow or London or many of our provincial towns and cities is quite a hazardous job.

All I ignore is scaremongering. Even in Glasgow or London a taxi driver must think that there is a reasonable chance their next fare isn't going to murder them or they wouldn't be doing the job.

BTW you don't know if I have worked as a taxi driver in a large metropolitan area or not, you know very little about me, please don't fill in the blanks with your imagination then bandy it as fact.

John Little
11-Apr-10, 18:41
"All I ignore is scaremongering. Even in Glasgow or London a taxi driver must think that there is a reasonable chance their next fare isn't going to murder them or they wouldn't be doing the job."

If you would care to explore the topic there really is quite a lot of stuff out there on the net. There are even quite a lot of cab drivers and bus drivers giving their views. Also a very interesting report done by a firm of specialists in stress on over 30% of bus crews suffering large amounts of stress; apparently drinking to excess is a common problem aongst them.

"BTW you don't know if I have worked as a taxi driver in a large metropolitan area or not, you know very little about me, please don't fill in the blanks with your imagination then bandy it as fact."

I did not fill in any blanks, imply that I knew anything about you or even bandy it as fact. If you care to read what I said again there is a rather elaborately worded preface; "I fear you have led a sheltered life..."
which is by no means a statement of fact but a pure speculation based on nothing but my own fear. You may choose to confirm, deny or ignore as you wish.

BTW; "All I ignore is scaremongering"...

Really?

fred
11-Apr-10, 18:47
Oh but it can be Fred;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1584978/Bride-for-Peace-hitch-hiker-artist-murdered.html

Are you saying I shouldn't pick up a hitch hiker in case I murder them?

A quick look at the BBC website. The Polish President and many of his government have been killed in a plane crash, everyone should stop going on planes they obviously aren't safe. A woman's body has been found in Wales, she was strangled, Wales is obviously not a safe place, everyone should move somewhere else. Four armed men went into a pub in County Durham and attacked people, stay out of pubs if you value your life. Armed police have been called to a stabbing in Cardiff, I told you Wales wasn't a safe place didn't I?

I will continue to pick up hitch hikers because I don't want to live in a world where everyone lives in fear, I want to live in a world where people help each other.

bekisman
11-Apr-10, 19:11
Are you saying I shouldn't pick up a hitch hiker in case I murder them?

A quick look at the BBC website. The Polish President and many of his government have been killed in a plane crash, everyone should stop going on planes they obviously aren't safe. A woman's body has been found in Wales, she was strangled, Wales is obviously not a safe place, everyone should move somewhere else. Four armed men went into a pub in County Durham and attacked people, stay out of pubs if you value your life. Armed police have been called to a stabbing in Cardiff, I told you Wales wasn't a safe place didn't I?

I will continue to pick up hitch hikers because I don't want to live in a world where everyone lives in fear, I want to live in a world where people help each other.

You are obviously very concerned about flying, Wales, Co Durham and Cardiff so I would keep away from those nasty places if I was you :(

bekisman
11-Apr-10, 19:19
Well what do you expect when we bring our kids up telling them they live in a hostile environment where every adult is probably an axe murderer out to get them. It's no wonder there is so much anti social behaviour about when kids are taught that society is their enemy.


I've got four kids and never taught them "that society is their enemy" or "telling them they live in a hostile environment where every adult is probably an axe murderer out to get them"
Not being personal Fred, but inquisitive about where you're coming from; do you actually have kids to whom you impart this knowledge? fair enough question. :confused

wicker8
11-Apr-10, 19:24
Now look! me and the wife are going out for an Indian meal so you'll just have to wait!!!
hi john enjoy your meal i love an indian meal

yorkshire lassie
11-Apr-10, 19:30
I used to hitch hike a lot with my friend in our youth. Spent 2 weeks hitchhiking around Ireland. We got a couple of 'scary' rides with people but it didn't deter us. I don't know if I would pick anyone up now ... it would depend on who it was, where it was and whether I was alone in the car.

bekisman
11-Apr-10, 19:37
About ten years ago in dead of winter was driving back late from Inverness via Lairg on the A836. Driving through the gloom of falling snow we were carefully driving along the single-track in Dalchork Forest, - bit of a creepy place at the best of times.

Not seen a car for ages, when suddenly out of the snow a man appeared, bedraggled and waving his arms, trying to flag us down.
What to do? rev up and leave him there? no, we slowed, and as we drew alongside him, I lowered the window.
The poor bloke was absolutely freezing and wet. He tells us his car headlights had suddenly faded and was unable to go on, he was a stranger in the area, but was trying to find habitation for help.
It was a judgement call, and took the chance, letting him into our car. I then recalled I had seen a vehicle on the side of the single track a few miles back.. "might have been better if you had stayed in your car" I ventured.. "you're the first vehicle either way in four hours he replied"! Shortly after we dropped him off at the Crask Inn, a very happy and relieved chap, and it's often crossed my mind, what would have happened if we had not chanced along.. So yes, we do pick up the occasional hitchhiker..

Just eaten a beautiful Nasi Goreng (chicken)

Creme_Egg
11-Apr-10, 19:42
I seen a hitch-hiker yesterday by the park hotel, seemed a strange kinda fellow. Me and my girlfriend in the car, it just crossed my mind should i or shouldnt i, maybe if it was in the dark cold raining and some one flagged me down it would be diffrent?....but no he was just standing there on a beaautiful day...if he wanted a lift that bad...GET WALKING!!!

lexie
11-Apr-10, 19:53
nope... never pick up a hitch hiker...... ever!

Creme_Egg
11-Apr-10, 19:54
nope... never pick up a hitch hiker...... ever!


Short honest and sweet!!

fred
11-Apr-10, 20:19
I did not fill in any blanks, imply that I knew anything about you or even bandy it as fact. If you care to read what I said again there is a rather elaborately worded preface; "I fear you have led a sheltered life..."
which is by no means a statement of fact but a pure speculation based on nothing but my own fear. You may choose to confirm, deny or ignore as you wish.


"Whilst I am glad that you personally have had no experience of these things".

Looks like a statement to me.

.

John Little
11-Apr-10, 20:46
Oh Freddie you hurt my feelings to imagine that I would impugn you in any way;

"Whilst I am glad that you personally have had no experience of these things".

I was expressing relief that you had no experience of the horrible things that have been reported in the beastly tabloids. I gained this impression from what you had said previously on this thread;

"I don't see how it can be all that dangerous."

"Well now I'm starting to wonder just why every taxi driver in Caithness isn't covered in bruises. "

If you cannot see something and wonder why you don't see it it seems to me a reasonable asusmption that you have had no experience of it. Because if you had had experience of it you would see that it could be dangerous and you would not wonder.

"Looks like a statement to me."

well yes it is a statement - but one based on what you said. :D

BTW - the Indian meal was fantastic

fred
11-Apr-10, 21:37
I was expressing relief that you had no experience of the horrible things that have been reported in the beastly tabloids. I gained this impression from what you had said previously on this thread;


Like I said, you don't know what experiences I've had.

The subject of this thread is hitch hikers by the way, you don't seem to have mentioned them at all.

John Little
11-Apr-10, 21:51
Hitch-hikers. No I don't pick 'em up.
Strangers on the roads got unpopular after the A6 murders- I mean Hanratty was not a hitch-hiker but he was looking for a lift...

My wife had a friend when she was 15 who had a sister in the 6th form whose name was Judy. Judy is famous now.

Her story is here; http://www.roadghosts.com/blue%20bell%20hill.htm

She is the phantom hitch-hiker.

I come over Bluebell Hill every day - but I don't pick up hitch-hikers.

Hitch-hikers - will that do?

fred
11-Apr-10, 23:31
Hitch-hikers - will that do?

OK, so let me just give two of the times I have picked up hitch hikers.

One time I was heading for Inverness to catch the 6.30am train, there were two young girls hitching around the Dornoch area on their way home from a party. I delivered them safe and sound to their homes in Alness, if I had not stopped and then read in the papers that something had happened to them how would I have felt?

Another time there was a young man hitching on the A99 at Lybster one Boxing Day night. He had been to visit his father in Wick for Christmas and was trying to get home. I stopped and told him the snow gates were closed at Helmsdale then took him home and gave him a bed for the night, made him breakfast next day and took him down past the Thurso turn off so he'd have a better chance of a lift. If I hadn't stopped and then read in the papers of a young man dying of exposure how would I have felt?

If those had been your children wouldn't you have wanted me to stop? If the world is as dangerous and people as murderous as you claim shouldn't we be stopping and picking up those hitch hikers just in case the next car that stops is driven by someone not as nice as we are?

Dadie
11-Apr-10, 23:40
As I said in an earlier post I used to stop for hitchers...but now due to lack of room in the car and 1 individual who was becoming suicidal jumping out in front of the car because he reconised it and thought it was an easy lift I now dont/cant because of the lack of space!

John Little
12-Apr-10, 10:07
Fred - I wish we were all altruists - but we ain't. What's good for Caithness probably will not serve for down here. But for what you did - good on you; I still think you took a risk - but hey it's your decision.

Invisible
12-Apr-10, 10:22
I wouldn't